Just another example of why you have to have leadership over the first dog BEFORE you get the second dog.

Why do people think small dogs have different needs than big ones? Do they think that short people have different needs than tall people?

I may be loosing my mind, but I just wanted to check. I did not see the episode refered to in this blog on Friday. The show that aired on 4-28-06 was the "Pups on Parole". Is Utah a week behind? Someone please let me know.

Moderator's note: This segment will air Friday, May 5.

No, you're on schedule. Cesar posts about the show usually a week before it airs. At least that's what I think?

Nicole,

"Why do people think small dogs have different needs than big ones? Do they think that short people have different needs than tall people?"

Good point!

That's why Cesar says to view them as spieces first, dog, breed than personality last.
Hopefully that will get ingrained into the minds of all dog owners.

Amber,

Just wanted to make sure you know Miniature Pinschers are NOT miniature Dorberman Pinschers. They are completely different breeds. They may have common ancesters (probably German Pinschers), but Min Pins are not scaled down Dorbies. Min Pins are actually older breed than Dorberman Pinschers.
I love Min Pins. They are my first choice. They are small, but they do need a lot of exercise. They can live in a small house as long as the owner takes time to give them good exercise. Otherwise, they could be quite destructive. Although they are small, they act like big dogs. They are quite athletic and smart in their own way. They may not be "smart" like some herding dogs when they have to follow owners' instructions, but they will find ways to do mischief if they are bored. They are definitely not for people who want their dogs to lie down by them or wait for their commands patiently.
I used to have an aggressive Min Pin. It was as usual the owners' fault. My husband did not want to train the dog, and we did not walk the dog or socialize the dog as much as we should have. I did not want to repeat the same mistake with our second Pin, so I took her to training sessions and she gets exercise a lot more than most dogs. (one and a half hour walk everyday) She is a lot easier dog to own than the one before. She was bred by a responsible breeder while the older one came from a puppy mill (we bought her from a pet shop in a mall before we even knew anything about puppy mills) so I am sure it makes some differences.
It seems that many small breeds can have aggression problems. Cesar rehabilitated a few Chihuahuas, Pomeranian, Min Pins, etc. I cannot wait to see this episode.

I so appreciated Friday's show and all that I learned from it.

I was sorry for the inmates and how discouraged they must have felt when the dogs they had been assigned didn't respond to the love and kindness they were probably showering them with. Thanks to Cesar, we now know why. I'm so glad for them that Cesar went to the prison and showed them how to handle the dogs 'Cesar's Way'.

I think all prison systems that have a dog training program should be required to show Cesar's DVD to the selected prisoners and require them to read his book if time won't allow Cesar to visit in person.

wait,

I'm mixed up. nevermind. Ya I see what you meen. Cesar always talks about the next weeks episode.

HELP!

It's time to get my 4 month old Welshie into puppy kindergarten and later obedience training. I know from past experience that PetSmart uses treats for positive reinforcement. I cannot find another training class without this. Any suggestions? Is it okay to use this method and then cease the treats after the commands are mastered. With our Irish Water Spaniel, we went thru the classes and when it was all over--we cut the treats and he responded to hand motions.

I'M A WOMAN ON THE VERGE!!!
I have 2, 4 year old rescue dogs. One, Jose, is a shephard mix (We've had him only for a few months), and the other, Beauford, is a Rottweiler mix (we've had him since 4 mos old). My fiance and I just moved into a new house in a nice neighborhood where almost every house has a dog. I've been trying to work with the dogs so that I can take them on walks together, and for Jose, it's a dream come true, but Beauford is a completely separate story. He's 85lbs of pure energy, and he has NEVER walked nicely on a leash, even when I was in my apartment and he got at least 3 30minute walks a day, in addition to playing at the dog park.(however, I was known at the complex as "the girl who couldn't control her rottweiler", even getting complaints from the neighbors!) He's not aggressive, just excited, but to anyone else, he looks like a ticking time-bomb when he's on his leash. I'm afraid that all it will take is one stray cat or squirrel and I'll be in the hospital. He's just too strong for me to apply what I've learned from Cesar about "the walk". When he pulls, I tug or say the "shht" noise. when he pulls hard, we stop and I re-position myself and the leash. Only when his ears go back and he gives in do I start walking again, but the process just happens over and over, there's never a point where he actually STOPS pulling, just varying degrees of power. I've tried all different kinds of leads, from the "choke chain" to the "cleat" collar to harnesses that fit over their face or legs to reduce pulling and try and control his power better. I start off calm, but he pulls so much and doesn't respond to the quick up-tugs of the collar, or the "shhht" noises I make. I come home sore with bloody, blistered hands, and I just get frusterated. I tried walking the two of them together,(the idea that the good one will influence the "bad" one, and get the feeling of a submissive "pack") but not only can I NOT control Beauford with one arm, Jose sees Beauford and HE starts acting up!(needless to say, I must look like the villiage idiot trying to control these monsters!) I'm sure it would help for Beau to get a bunch of his energy out before I start the walk process, but with as rowdy as he is, I just don't know where to start.(if i went out on rollerblades with him, I'd end up crashed through someone's living room window, or in the river!) I'm really trying to give these dogs a happy, balanced life, but I need some suggestions before I lose my mind, and the skin on my hands! Can I establish the role of "pack leader" BEFORE we go on walks? Or is "the walk" the first step? (if it is, I'm in trouble...) any advice would really be appreciated. thanks!

"Can I establish the role of “pack leader” BEFORE we go on walks? Or is “the walk” the first step? (if it is, I’m in trouble…) any advice would really be appreciated. thanks! "

I'm going to give you the same advice I've given over and over on these blogs. Get a copy of William Koehler's "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" - either the most recent update, or the original, it doesn't matter which. He will give you the TECHNIQUES you need to get your boy under control and to my mind his methods, for the most part, mesh quite well with Cesar's.

Some of his methods are pretty strong stuff...but that's mostly for red zone cases of agression and you shouldn't need THOSE.

Hi Leah,
Boy, oh, boy, do you sound like ME!! And GinnyC is right, don't give up, keep trying and trying again. I did it -- it took me about 6 months, but my "big, wonderful clown" Hector the Lab/Coonhound finally walks without injuring me. I'm a small lady, and I walk both dogs together almost all the time. Occasionally, I will walk them separately just to give myself a break. I've gotten Hector to sit and wait for me to go out the door first, and down the stairs first. That only took me a couple of weeks. I used to let Hector run loose for the first few minutes of our walks, to burn off that energy. If you are able to do that without neighbors complaining (that's why I had to stop) then you might want to give that a try. I feel your frustration -- and there's nothing worse than being "shamed" by those pesky complaining neighbors ha ha ha. Author and dog trainer, Patricia McConnell, has some great advice in her books about how not to "pull back" on the leash. I've been practicing this for only a few days (after reading one of her books) and it is amazing the difference. It takes a bit of practice to get the right "feel" for it. But once the human stops pulling, then the dog stops pulling too! McConnell uses very similar methods as Cesar does. If you have to correct, use short UPWARD yanks on the choke collar, not BACKWARD. As Cesar has demonstrated on smaller dogs, he has actually pulled the dog's front legs right off the ground to demonstrate the proper UP action vs. pulling back which is what most of us do naturally. Also, are you making sure the choke collar is RIGHT UNDER the dog's ears, and not further down on the neck? When I put the choke immediately under Hector's ears ("show dog style") he just completely gives up and I'm in complete control.
Good luck, watch as many of Cesar's shows as you can (Season 1 DVD comes out in a couple weeks!!) and get the book "Cesar's Way". Finally, "MASTER THE WALK" - as I've said many times, the only way to become a master at something is to practice, practice, practice. If I can do it, anyone can do it. Keep logging in to the blog and tell us how it's going!

I have taken several of my dogs through a basic training class, and a two of those onto off leash classes It was so much fun. I had a goofy middle aged Bassett Hound that the instructor did not hold out a lot of hope for., But with determination and daily work outs at home, he came in as #1. It really isn't a competition, but I was thrilled. Join in the fun. It really isn't hard at all.

Leah, I've finally figured out how to use the McConnell techniques I mentioned above! I'm so excited about it! I have stopped pulling! LOL! Turns out the problem was ME the whole time (bet Cesar would've told me that ha ha)! I have been pulling and holding the leashes in "death grip". When I came across McConnell's explanation of how not to pull back, I started practicing it and it only took a couple of walks to get it right. Both dogs walked this morning the entire 45 minutes with slack leashes, which I was able to hold with ONE FINGER! Wow! It was the best walk we've ever had! (P.S. What Joanna said works, too -- I've tried that method as well)

Many years ago I remember seeing an infomercial for a dog training video. With the video came a 20 ft. leash. You were to take your dog to a large area and attach him/her to the leash. While holding the looped end of the leash to your chest, you were to walk in a large square (say 25ft. sides). All the while your puppy is wandering around but as you are walking you are making him/her follow you. Eventually they get the idea that you want them to follow you. As time goes by they are by your side.
Does anyone else remember this?

Some of you have discussed "walking backward" and this reminded me of the above mentioned video. By walking backward do you mean turning around and going back the way you just came or just turning to face the dog and continue pulling them in the same direction you were going? I guess either way is fine as long as the job gets done.

Oh! Checked in on my nephew's pit bull puppy last night and seems to be doing real well. His severed tongue and the bite marks on and through the upper and lower portions of his muzzle are healing nicely. He's doing well for an 10 to ll week old pup.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Just want National Geographic to know that Dog Whisperer is my favorite show. I plan around it.

Am I the only one who thought the owner of the Min Pins seemed waaaaaay unstable? ("Do the dogs know that they are good dogs and that you think they are good dogs...." Hello....?!! No wonder the dogs acted as they did. And then they put one down because of its behavior. I wish Daddy had thought to lift his leg on her when they were walking... Grrrrrr.....

"Does anyone else remember this?"

Yep...at least, I don't remember the video, but the method you described in William Koehler's method. If you read his book "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" you'll get a BIG surprise!

Julie-

I agree. What a sad fate that the owners just did not learn anything. Not to mention that Taz now also has a broken heart. That woman probably should not own dogs.

GinnyC,

Walking backward means...literally walking BACKWARD. It does make a difference! You have to start backing up, as in- I am facing toward the park but walking backward AWAY from the park. The whole point is that you change the DIRECTION you are walking. The dog gets an automatic leash correction if he is not paying attention, because now you are going in the opposite direction from the dog. Also the dog is no longer getting closer to what he was pulling toward. He never gets to move a step closer to where he wants to go if he is pulling. He just gets farther away.

This method really worked wonders for me, whereas the constant jerk correction while continuing to move forward did almost nothing. It was just an endless tug-o-war. The direction change seemed to turn a light on in my dog's brain - oh so THAT'S what you mean!

Hope I'm not being boring!

Of course we saw an edited-down version of the segment with the Minpins. I'd love to have seen the raw footage -- the entire day with Maria. It seems like her objective was to reward the dogs immediately, even if they did just one thing right! She seemed unable to get past that -- like "are you going to tell them they were good now?" The poor lady also seemed to be consumed with fear -- and speaking from experience that can paralyze a person. It's so sad that Victoria couldn't have been sent away for some rehab (maybe they couldn't afford it, we don't know all the facts here) or sent to a no-kill shelter like we have here in my town. Poor Taz now has no companion, and is probably still very high energy. It'd be interesting to see a follow-up of how Taz is doing -- are they walking him and burning off that energy, etc? How odd that death was their option -- there are SO many other choices. And what about the lady who USED TO own Victoria? Wonder if she was part of the final decision as well. I saw so much potential with those two cute little dogs -- but if the humans are not committed to the process (I mean I've become a "practitioner" of pack leadership!!) then the potential will never even be tapped into, and the dogs will fail at being balanced. It's all up to the humans.

I not only watch the show but also have recorded them on my DVR to watch over again. It broke my heart when Cesar said that the one mini pin was euthanized and he was told after the fact.
Why didn’t that owner contact Cesar again if things weren’t going well?
I have to agree with other posters the woman seemed odd to me and should have had counseling for her fear of dogs in the first place. It was a real red flag when she or her daughter stated that the mother put her daughters in front of her when she saw a dog running or near them on the street. What kind of rationale person does that?
Some people should never own a pet.

"k2 says: It’d be interesting to see a follow-up of how Taz is doing — are they walking him and burning off that energy, etc?"

Oish. Perhaps Cesar, being a professional, could revisit the scene of the crime without hurting those people. I, however, would have a really hard time with it. When people hurt animals, I want to hurt those people. If I went back to check on Taz, I'd have to smack that woman. Cesar probably has more self-control.

Argh! I'm so angry about that senseless killing!

Poor Vicky. The family made a really bad choice, as some people say there are rescue groups that will take these dogs. Were they too lazy to walk them? Or they just couldn't discipline them? I hope that Taz went to a good home, if he stays with the family (heartbroken of course) who knows what happens.
Unfortunately there are many more people like that family. A person who I worked for, and used to like her a lot adopted a lab mix from humane society, only to put her down a few months later for biting. I couldn't believe. The people went long way to rescue the dog, there was another family who also wanted this dog. One bite, and the dog is gone. I don't even want to talk to that person anymore.

I have always loved dogs, but NEVER understood them until I started watching Cesar's show! Truly an ENLIGHTENING show delving into the minds of dogs... and humans! Cesar's animated facial expressions are HILARIOUS!!! ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!!! WONDERFUL WONDERFUL SHOW!!! My hat's off to National Georgraphics for offering such a FANTASTIC SHOW!!! Cesar is truly a remarkable human being! Blessings to you Cesar! Please keep up the Grrrrr....8 work!!! Melinda Field

"I’m with Trish and would have a hard time checking on Taz while maintaining my composure with Maria. I thought that she was “playing” her phobia for attention. What kind of mother would put her children in front of her and something she “geniunely” feared? Either a bad mother or a real drama queen"

I think (not just you, I'm using your statement as an example) are being overly harsh on Maria. She was bitten as a child and I have NO DOUBT that her PARENTS fed her fear for the rest of her life and that is why she is so bad, still, about big dogs and unable to properly handle her little ones.

It was probably a major act of courage for her to even OWN a dog of whatever size. Just imagine though, that the bite she received was serious. We don't know how bad it was, but let's assume she had to go to at least the emergency room. That can be pretty traumatic for a child.

Then let's further assume that her parents were not exactly fond of dogs either. And you have the setup right there for developing and maintaining life-long psychological problems about dogs in that child.

If her parents reacted with fear about dogs everytime one was around SHE would never get a chance to work through her bad experience. Her parents would have been reinforcing her bad experience constantly.

As was evidenced by her reaction to the change in her dogs after Cesar's rollerblading with them...you can SEE AND HEAR that she has absolutely NO INSIGHT into how dogs think and behave, not surprising given her history. So she treats them as she treats PEOPLE and that obviously wasn't the right thing to do.

I would venture to guess that Vickie reverted almost immediately to her previous behavior and that she bit someone. I would also bet that her owner, having seen the change, AND the reverted behavior, allowed her own fear of dogs to consumer her and that she felt the dog was crazy and couldn't be helped again...and allowed that fear to lead her to choose the ultimate decision.

I'm sorry, too, that Vicky was put down...but it seemed to me that she was unwanted from the get-go. They had a nice dog, they brought in his sister and she wasn't as nice and both dogs got worse and worse, and they finally got rid of the "trouble-maker" in a very final way.

Personally, I blame Vickie's ORIGINAL OWNER as much or more. Why on earth would someone get a young dog and before it was even a year old move to an apartment that didn't allow dogs?

I'm glad to see the comments about Vicky & Maria. I too thought this was a very unusual episode--the only one I remember that did not have a "happy ending." I had to watch it twice to make sure I heard right. It must be very frustrating for Cesar, because there are SO many cases like this. I would like to know how Taz is. If they don't give an update, I'm going to worry that he'll meet the same fate as Vicky... I hope Maria doesn't get any more dogs.

Excuse me, but I did walk a mile in her shoes! I was bit by a German Shepard..requiring medical attention. That's the same mile she walked! I know EXACTLY what it's like to have a fear of dogs and I had the sense NOT to get any kind of dog until I overcame that fear.

I'm not talking about the way Vicky was killed, I'm saying that the solution to the problem was harsh! The owner is still alive the dog is dead = harsh!

There were other alternitives, even Cesar said he was not informed until after the fact and he felt there was a better solution.

I stand by my assertions, this woman is a kook and has no business owning anything with a heart beat. Had the autorities found out she was subjecting her own children to perceived dangers by putting them out in front of her when encountering dogs, she would have risked intervetion on the behalf of her kids...which, no doubt should have happened.

Doggone,

You are a nice person, trying to defend Maria.
I don't understand why would she even take a dog in a first place. Obviously she should't have. She's got the best help ever with Cesar, and she didn't appreciate it. She didn't follow through. I think that people are so harsh on her (I know I am) because the family didn't even bothered to notify Cesar about their decision, and they have chosen the worst possible solution. A dog had to pay with her life for her owner's ignorance.

One more thing;

"No matter how many times you say it YOU did not experience HER bite experience and SHE did not experience yours. You have different parents, different life experiences. You are DIFFERENT PEOPLE. No one can duplicate the experience of another."

True, but I come a whole lot closer than someone who has never been bit by the same exact breed of dog at nearly the same age. Giving me a better insight then someone who has not had that experience.
So, unless you've been bit by a GSD at a young age, then I'd say I have the better view of what it is like to walk in those shoes.

Lea,

That's wonderful your parents had the wisdom to teach you the appropriate response to a dog bite.
Mine, however didn't do anything like that, they "freaked" out and my dad even went so far to chase the dog off with a knife! Fortunaley, he did not catch up to the dog and no further injury was encountered by beast or man.

Having said that, from either approach, it is possible to overcome the fear of dogs and Maria should have had the sense to seek help before getting any dogs.

Again, I admire your parents good sense. :)

As a child I was bit by both a small dog and a big dog. I was out walking with a friend and bent down to pet this little dog and he jumped up and bit me on the ear. I was a young girl at the time. Then later when I was a teenager I was at a friends house and we were running around the living room and their doberman was chasing us and I leaped up onto the couch to get away from it and it lunged towards me and bit me on the inner thigh. If I had to choose which one was more traumatic it would have been the first one with the little dog. I have never cared for little dogs and perhaps that it why. They are so yippie and yappie and bark non stop and to me they tend to be more aggressive. I love big dogs though and we have a yellow lab and a boarder collie/mutt.
I was shocked to see the horrible behavior of these min pins and how their owners allowed them to run the entire household. It was like these dogs were on speed or something. When I take my dogs to the dog park it is the little dogs that show more aggression and have little or no self control. Once when I was there walking my dog (on leash) a lady arrived with a little dog off leash and he dog took off running toward my dog bearing his teeth, growling and barkind at my dog and his owner had the balls to say "Is you dog nice?" and I'm thinking "Yeah but yours obviously isn't" For the most part we try and avoid the little ankle biters at the park. A few times I have been asked by their owners how I am able to have such control over my own dog and I tell them because he knows that I am the leader. They just kind of scratch their head!! (lol)

My husband had an aunt who passed away recently. She was one of the most centered, calm assertive people I've ever known, overcame some pretty awful things in her life. She had one issue over which she spent her 90 years in a state of panic whenever the subject arose -- cats.

When she was a little girl she was petting a cat, having a nice time, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the cat jumped up and bit her eyelid.

80 some years later we could not get her to visit our home because we have a cat -- she never set foot in this house, despite our assurances that our cat would never do that, would probably ignore her, we'll shut her in the bedroom etc. She was frustrated by her own fear, she dearly WANTED to visit us in our home, but she never could bring herself to come.

We can never know what is going on in Maria's heart and mind; I choose to believe that she first adopted Taz to 1)try to overcome her fear and 2)probably gave in to her kids desire for a dog, not wanting to deprive them because of her fear. Then the pressure came to take Vicki too and presto she's in way over her head.

Putting the dog down is not what we would have done, just as most of the people on this blog would have exhausted every other option. We once had a sheltie who was the result of a backyard breeder mating their female with her own son. That dog was housebroken only about every other day, bit her nails, jumped up and chased her tail from a sound sleep and was afraid of everything. I'm sure Cesar could have helped her but he wasn't around then and that experience was a 14 year pain in the neck! But she had a loving home with us until she passed away.

Also, I think that we need to remember that it's a sobering, scary thing to have your own vet volunteer that he'd testify against you if a lawsuit ever happened. He obviously was coaching them to put her down, and all it would take is one weak moment when the vet is right there and Cesar is not.

I wish it hadn't happened; I would have taken her myself if I'd only known.

"I hate that the Mini-pin was put down. Why didn’t the owners contact Cesar before doing that???? I think they could have adopted her out and another family could have been perfect for her. I know. I have a small dog-pound dog who wasn’t perfect for her other family but certainly is for us! "

Do you realize the liability they would have been responsible for if they placed a KNOWN biter with another family and she bit someone? Even if they told her new owners about her problem.

I agree with katie3...they were up against their vet who was almost certainly advising them to put her down, as opposed to someone who came into their life briefly, made some changes, and then left. Not to knock Cesar, he didn't have much choice...but the vet was THERE and he couldn't be.

I saw most of this episode, and several others on the day when the marathon was running. I was watching with particular interest because I just adopted my second rescue Shih Tzu. She is quite unlike my first one, because she is so highly energetic and way more territorial. I wanted to see what I could do to stop her from terrorizing the other dog. I have found that my first dog is hardly around me any more because she blocks her every move. And she has the moves of a cat, and is very good at it. Sometimes, I'll kennel her while I have alone time with the first dog. She barks so loud you can hear her down the street. Other times, I'll pick up the other dog, and put her in a pet pouch just because it's been days since she has successfully navigated to me. After this show, I took them to the park and walked as long as I could. It did tire out the new dog, but not enough for her to lose her desire to be owner of me. I think more exercise will help with her hyperness, but I need help with her possessiveness before she ruins the other dog's spirit. Any suggestions???

I hope the people that euthanized the Min-pin take this to their grave. They are lazy people who didnt want to put the work into rehabbing a dog with some MINOR behavioral issues. All it would have taken was some common sense management for keeping the dog away from strangers, crate training, and daily walks. Obviously they didnt really love the dog. They should be banned from ever having pet again. Sorry that Cesar wasted him time on these people.

Leah, I agree with K9s4, it is much better to give some strong corrections than to have a lifetime of medium yanking on a dog's neck. I think most people find it hard to do this because it seems harsh, but a husky especially will not respond to a half-hearted correction. THey were bred to PULL!

I will repeat my little walking speech and hope the repetition is not annoying to people, because it helped me so much.

Set yourself a goal of walking across the yard, or down the driveway. As soon as the dog forges ahead, step backwards. Keep backing up, jerking on the leash as you go. When the dog turns to follow you, praise him and keep walking backwards a few more steps. Now go forward and try for your goal again.

NEVER go forward when the dog is out in front pulling. Always step back, with a good firm snap correction. He will get the idea that he will NEVER get to where he wants to go by pulling. He has to pay attention to that quirky human at the other end of the leash. The direction change will get it into his mind much more quickly, that he has to watch you. Somehow the step-forward & give-a-tug, step & tug etc, method just doesn't do this.

I trained my friend's husky mix this way, a real shoulder dislocater dog. It took me 10 back ups, (with the dog flying forward and snapping the end of the line like a giant fish) just to get out the front door, but she got the idea, and I was able to walk her pleasantly for the 2 weeks I took care of her, even though she had pulled my friend like a sled dog w/o snow for 2 years straight.

Dawn,

Apparently you have missed a good portion of what Cesar's philosophy is about. He does NOT distinguish between breeds. Your predjudice over small dogs is unwarranted and unfair. I don't see any difference between you and those who "lable" powerful breeds as dangerous. It's because of people like you that legislatures are trying to pass laws against owning certain breeds.

You need a reality check and more time studying Cesar's teachings. He says to view dogs as first, speices, then dog, THEN BREED, then personality.
If you're going to follow Cesar's philosophy, you would do well to learn his core principles, part of which I just mentioned. Perhaps you missed what else Cesar has said and you can take this to the dog park and put it in your mind, "There are NO bad breeds, just BAD owners". So, instead of labeling small dogs as "ankle biters" you can lable their owners instead, where the fault really lies.

I was sickened after finding out Victoria was euthanized. How cruel. I think the family did not want Victoria from the beginning and this was their easy way out. I hope some day they realize how heartless they have been. Some people should not be allowed to own pets. I have owned many dog breeds throughout my life from Collies, German Shepherds, Irish Settlers, Border Collies, Fox Terriers, Beagles, Chihuahuas, and Min Pins. I have found that dogs as Cesar states need rules and limitations. Some have been rescues with numerous issues that had to be addressed, but not once did I ever consider euthanizing one of them. When I adopt a dog it is a commitment for life. The family that owned Victoria just threw her away like a piece of garbage instead of trying to work with her or finding her another home. If they would have worked with her they would have found a very loving little girl who just needed some leadership. As far as the vet goes, I would be finding another vet for Taz. Not once have I ever had a vet suggest that I euthanize one of my dogs for behavior issues.

I have loved all of my dogs, but the breed that gives me the most pleasure are Min Pins. They are such energetic little clowns while also being the smallest guard dog. Min Pins are not for everyone and should only be owned by experienced dog handlers or people with a little dog savvy. Before anyone purchases a dog they should look closely at their life style, indoor and outdoor space, and research breeds of dogs in order to match a dog breed with their own temperament and daily routine. It is well known in the dog world that Min Pins are extremely energetic, impetuous, sensitive in nature, and deeply love their care givers. It is too bad Victoria was never loved by her family, because she would have returned that love many times over.

I currently have two Min Pins, a Fox Terrier, and a Chihuahua. I am their pack leader. I do not have the control that Cesar commands, but I am working on some of his techniques. Cesar’s shows are wonderful and inspiring, and he is truly my hero.

Re the putting to death of the Mini Pin -- I think the SPCA in California (I assume that's where they live) should investigate these people and possibly charge them with animal cruelty. At the very least they should consider removing the other dog from their possession. Their vet should also be put on the carpet and possibly be charged with professional misconduct for his role in this.

Cesar clearly demonstrated that both of the the dogs had the potential to be calm submissive, and the dog could have been put up fo adoption. There is probably a Mini Pin rescue organization that would find the dog a suitable home.

These people are clueless and do not deserve to have pets.

I have been reading all of your posts and opinions on the mini pin situation.I still cannot find the justification in putting one dog to death and keeping the other.It seems to me even from watching this episode that they always favored one dog over the other.I feel these people are a very strange breed themselves.It's no wonder the dogs took over,even they could tell their owners are unstable.I am truly saddened by the death of this mini pin and I really hope and pray they will give the other dog up for adoption and NEVER own ANY other being that breathes.

I think Cesar should make people sign a contract when they request his services that euthanasia cannot be done without consulting with him first. I am confident that Cesar could save both of those minpins. I don't think the problems with the owners had anything to do with her getting bit as a child. The owners did not seem prepared for the commitment and hard work to rehabilitate their dogs and were hoping Cesar would perform some magic and the dogs would change overnight. Cesar is good, but those dogs definitely needed consistency in exercise and discipline. I think the owners working from home being with the dogs all day long just compounded the problem and added to the frustration. I too feel bad for Victoria, I know Cesar could have saved her. I would be embarrassed to be on national TV and have everyone know that I euthanized my dog without really trying to rehabilitate her or giving her to a rescue or the dog psychology center first.

Joanna,

Then perhaps you too have missed a core value of Cesars, he has said, "There are NO bad breeds, just BAD owners",
if you doubt that then go back thru the archives on this site and find the blog with that title.

And you'll have to speak to Cesar about another core value of his; to approach viewing dogs as first and foremost spieces, then as a dog then as a breed then as a personality.
He puts "breed" next to last. And by so doing, in part, he's able to rehab the worst behaviors, I'm not clear as to why some people are still missing this important fact.

Cesar does not "lable" breeds. I've yet to hear him call small dogs as "ankle biters" or pit bulls as "dangerous". In fact, he speaks out against "labeling" dogs and says we must stop.

It's predjudices like Dawn's that has caused legislatures to begin the process of banning many, many breeds. This is what I was speaking about. With this attitude, not even the "toy poodle" will get adopted from the "pound".

There's one thing that's most difficult to teach and that is common sense for human beings.

Jeez k9s4happiness, I hope you found a new vet after he told you that! I wouldn't go to ANY vet that doesn't feel bad about having to put a dog down!

My vet usually gives me the options (this was with a sick pet), chances of recovery, etc. but leaves the decision up to to the owner. Which I think is important because YOU have to come to terms of letting go and not feel pressured.

I remember the episode with the boxer where a vet had told the family that the dog could be a danger around their kids. (It clearly wasn't.) I remember Cesar was amazed that a vet would tell them that. I was so happy they had Cesar show them how to control the dog and that the little boy was able to keep his beloved boxer.

Regarding the little dogs. It amazes me that we've seen TWO episodes this season where little dogs are biting the children/teens (sometimes on the face) and the mother wants to keep the dog even though it was doing this! I'm glad Cesar got it sorted out--but those parents were nuts to allow a dog (even a small one) to bite on their kids. Would they let a pit bull or rottweiler do this??

Hey Sarah, I don't think I'm missing the core value. We're all on the same side I think. I am not saying there are BAD breeds. I am saying that there are DIFFERENT breeds and there is a reason for the difference. That's why people bothered to create breeds. If it were all in the training, there would be no need for breeds.

Retrievers DO have an innate desire and ability to fetch, bassets to track etc.

All I am saying is that I think ONE of the problems people have with dogs is they tend to choose them for aesthetic reasons without regard to the breed characteristics. One good example is the large number of Border Collies in rescue groups that are up for adoption. I think the numbers soared after the movie "Babe."

I am in no way saying this beautiful, super-intelligent, energetic breed is "bad," but attractive as they are, they are not the right breed for most casual dog owners, because they tend to become neurotic, loud, destructive without lots of challenge and exercise.

I am not advocating bans on any type of dog!

PS I once went to a vet who said that he had had to euthanize 4 young male rottweilers in the last few years for "turning" on their owners. Perhaps if this vet had known more about the challenges of this powerful guarding breed, he would have been able to advise the owners that their dogs were not vicious, and been able to give them the steps to take a leadership role.

I must conclude that veterinarian schools do not include canine behavior in their medical study offerings. Perhaps we are giving vets the assumption of expertise in this area, when in reality they have no training, just as your own doctor may be able to do a competent appendectomy, but not be capable of advising you about your marital woes!

Maybe Cesar should start giving seminars for vets, since they are the first people many dog owners turn to for advice.

Our TIVO made it possible for us to watch May 5ths episode of DW (our favorite show)just last night. My husband and I were furious to hear that Victoria was euthanized. There are just too many options for pet owners w/o resulting in the innocent dogs death. Obviously, those owner/abusers are outright incompetent individuals. Excuse me!? Maria is so fearful and brain dead she used HER KIDS as a shild against dogs on the street!? THERE'S a real winner for ya! She needs to spend a few weeks at Cesar's center..on all fours. I feel Taz needs our prayers!

Animal, Dog, Breed, Name-----that's the order.

Now Cesar has his formula, Exercise, Discipline and Affection in that order.

Here's how the two relate to each other.

Cesar says that Exercise and Discipline fulfill the Animal and Dog, and Affection fulfills the Breed and Name portion.

That's why Exercise and Discipline are so important, because they fulfill the Animal and Dog part which is the MOST important part to remember when dealing with this species. If you can control the Animal and Dog part, then you'll have no problem with the breed and name part.

But most humans see dogs as this. Name, Breed, Human.

John R.

Thank you! That's exactly what I've been trying to say!!
You said it succinctly!

If dog owners would understand this vital principle that Cesar is trying to educate the masses with, then perhaps what happened to Vicky will occur less and less. I know this is Cesar's ultimate goal. It's what seperates him the most from so many of the other dog behaviorists.

Sarah
I had no idea that in sharing my own personal feelings regarding small dogs that I would be attacked by you. It is a free country Sarah and if I prefer bigger dogs to smaller ones then so be it. I do not hate small dogs nor do I think that any breed big or small should ever be banned for any reason. When I refered to small dogs as ankle biters it was in fun, I am sorry that this comment offended you. It is NOT because of me that legislatures are trying to pass laws against owning certain breeds and I would appreciate it if you could refrain from labeling me as such.

Why the heck would someone with a fear and distrust of dogs want to own one or in this case TWO?

Perhaps these animals where supposed to rehabilitate her.
Well their little psycological experiment failed and one of the dogs had to pay with it's life. There is a good chance the other will be disposed of also.

Animal shelters and pounds would love for you to volunteer to help with the animals if you have a fear of them and would like to desensitize yourself with exposure to your fear.

If you hate or have a fear of children DON'T have any. If you have a fear or loathing of dogs, geez do I have to say it? Don't get one.

Hi Sarah
Species, dog, breed, (big & little) then personality, got it!!
Dawn

There is a difference between innate abilities such as being a retriever breed, a herding breed, or some other type of breed. However, there is no difference in breed when it comes to breeds relating to learned behavior. If you beat a dog 100 times it will have the same negative reaction no matter what breed it is. Hence, the reason Cesar says there is no difference in breeds. Cesar is not working to retrain innate abilities, but rather learned behavior.

I am a veterinarian and a great fan of Cesar's, and I would like to assure people that not all vets are "comfortable" putting dogs to sleep because of behavior problem. I, for one, will not do it. I was forced to put a perfectly good pit bull down once because of a court order. The only reason I did it was because the owner had no choice and I knew that she needed someone with compassion to do it for her.

I was heartbroken to hear that Victoria was put to sleep- I'm sure Cesar would have stepped in if he had heard that this is what they were planning to do. I, for one, try to counsel people on behavior and being the "pack leader", and I rarely use drugs to control behavior problems. I also refer to trainers and specialists in most cases because I know that the training I have is not enough to help people with serious problems.

Please don't think that all vets are quick to use drugs and put dogs down. Many of us are not that way at all.

Vickie,

It's so good to hear from a real vet, and to know that there are some vets who will not put a dog down for behavior reason. I wish many more were like you!

It was so hard to watch the re-run knowing that Vicky was dead.
It was interesting to listen again to what Cesar said to this woman while she mumbling something about did the dogs know they were happy or something like that. The first time I saw the segment it was funny when Cesar said, "What?" and "are you on earth?" It wasn't so funny this time.
I have no doubt Cesar was upset to find out Vicky was killed, he said he believed there were other alternatives.

Not one of those people would intervene, not the kids, not that goofy woman, the husband nor even the orginal owner. Shame on all of them, including that awful vet who would do such a thing to a perfectly happy, young and healthy dog.

Cesar mentions how important a stable and harmonious household is for your dogs. I will be getting a german shepherd puppy for the first time in my adult life and am really excited about it. My mother (and other sources) mention how great crate training is for your dog. To me it seems cruel and most UNHARMONIOUS to leave a dog in a crate while i am at work during the day. I am curious what the "Dog Whisperer's" thoughts are on crate training. it seems to me, that Cesar would say, if you adequately exercise your dog, then crate is not necessary. Any thoughts on this would really help.
Thank you!

Hi Jessica
We did the crate training thing with both our dogs when they were puppies. They slept in it at night in our bedroom and for the most part were out and about in the house as long as someone was able to keep an eye on them. If I had to make a quick grocery stor run or something like that and nobody was home then they would go into the crate until I got back. I think we used ours for at least six months for both dogs then put it in the garage.
My Dad also did the crate training with his yellow lab Murphy who was very mischevious and got into everything. He had a very large crate and still does and Murphy sleeps in his crate every night. There is no longer a door on the crate because Murphy needs room to stretch out at night. Murphy really loves his crate and he also likes to go in there and chew on his KONG or have a treat. My dad can literally tell Murphy to go to his crate and he won't come out until given the okay. He keeps it in their laundry room which is a pretty good size so if he does'nt feel like being in the crate there is plenty of room that he can stretch out on if he wants to. Murphy is almost four now. Hope this helps.

I do not understand why someone so terrified of dogs would want to get two...that doesn't make much sense to me. Also, as an owner of a minpin, I can say that they are a wonderful breed but can be devious if not properly trained from the beginning. (Their adorable little faces can be hard to say no to!) Maria should have done her homework- while all dogs require training, minpins are NOT for everyone. I don't think that euthanasia was the answer in this case. Given the chance to learn and please, I think Vicky could have been reformed!

I lost my best friend to parvo 2 years ago at the same time I found out I had cancer. Rocco was a toy chihuahua with an overactive social life, and no matter what I did I couldnt keep him in the yard. I put chicken wire all around the picket fence and watched him like a hawk, but the little stinker found a way to get out and go visit. The human neighbors didnt help much when they'd have Rocco over to have snacks and watch tv because he was so cute. Unbelievable, huh? I believe he got parvo because I didnt keep him in the yard. For my last birthday, my daughter gave me a Minpin pup, about 8 months old. I swore I wouldnt have another dog ever, but I have "Scrappy" now and he's not going ANYWHERE. There is no way for him to get out. I watch cesar every chance I get because I am amazed at his work. Because of cesar, Scrappy doesnt leave the yard -even when someone opens the gate - because I taught him using cesar's way. He doesnt jump on people because I knew enough from watching cesar to be able to tell when the jumping became neurotic behavior. I hate that I didnt know these techniques to help Rocco, because I know if I had, that Rocco would have had boundaries and limitations and I would still have him today. Scrappy has allowed me another chance to be a better pack leader and I owe it to him to do all I can to be just that. People cant believe how well behaved he is. Not for just the normal commands, but his overall behavior. I can see the confidence in him now, that he KNOWS what to do at any particular moment. Sometimes I am watching him in certain situations, like when the grandkids come over. I see him actually turn his head and look to me for information or approval. I too have more confidence in my role as a responsible pack leader. Thanks Cesar! You're the BOMB!

I was wondering if anyone can help. My American Eskimo dog who is the love of my life - now has an 8 week old kitten to contend with. Does anyone have any ideas on how we can all live together "happily"

Bob, Does he address it?! OH Yeah! Have your co-worker get Cesar's book and both DVDs, and if she has National Geographic Channel, have her watch the shows over and over and over again. I agree with you about that ridiculous urban legend. The dog can probably be rehabilitated, and the human can be trained! Oh, and she should also seek professional help, hopefully from someone who agrees with Cesar's methods.

Bob,
I would suggest to your friend to not have a trainer who trains police dogs work with her dog. These are highly specialized trainers whose purpose is to train "guard" dogs. Police trained dogs have a job to do every day and a reason for the training, however, everyday pets SHOULD NOT have this type of training! To me, it sounds like her rottie might be DOG-AGGRESSIVE, but not PEOPLE-aggressive. Anytime someone sticks their hands in between two fighting dogs, they are likely going to be bitten, but this doesn't not equate to a dog actively going after a human. She stepped into an aggressive situation between the two dogs, not between herself and her dog. I would say this is definitely a serious case, but I would never suggest her rottie be put down for this! Many dogs get into fights, and if this one is like most, they are not serious. You can't expect every animal to get along right off, especially if the animal has not been socialized well. She should definitely start watching Dog Whisperer and read his book. They are great learning tools for anyone with a dog, good or bad:)

I would encourage her to join this blog and our other forum at p4. forumforfree .com/ leaderofthepack.html (spaces placed so as to not create a live link) where she can post specific situations where she needs advice. There are some really great Pack Leaders on these blogs that have a wealth of knowledge on most topics!

Thank you for seeking out help for your friend. Cesar rehabilitates dogs who have KILLED other animals, there is all the hope in the world for your friend!

Wannabe,
Cesar addresses the issue of animals other than dogs being pack members in several episodes. I would check out the season 2 episodes and get his book. It is definitely possible to have both dog and cat become pack members, but it is going to take YOU being a very STRONG pack leader to start with. If you can create a balanced dog, he should accept any other animal you introduce into your pack. Good luck!

Jessica,
Your min-pin is snappying at everyone because she is the pack leader and SHE decides when someone can come near her or take her ball or walk across the room that way... etc. You need to practice rules, boundaries, and limitations with this girl right from the start or you might have a little terror on your hands soon:)!
Read Cesar's book and watch his DVD's and learn to master the walk (VERY important). Since you rescued her, you have a wonderful opportunity to turn things around for her and help her to get back to being a carefree animal that can depend on YOU to handle all the big decisions for the pack. Please keep posting to let us know how you are doing with her and what other questions you might have. Do some research online about NILIF (Nothing in Life is Free). It is a great training method that is very easy to implement and not harsh in any way.

Regarding the nipping issue, as soon as she does it, or looks like she's going to do it, give her a quick and assertive "shht" or whatever sound works for you, not too harsh though, and as soon as she looks up at you, step towards her, finger pointing and say "Enough" or "No". This should quickly let her know that nipping is no longer allowed in your house. If she doesn't respond to the sounds, give her a light "bite" on the side of her neck to let her know you mean business. Use your hand and cup it to re-create a dogs mouth. Your finger become the teeth. This is impossible to describe on a blog, but if you check out Cesar's shows, he does it all the time.

Good luck!

Linda R.,
I do not have cats, so take that into consideration when reading my advice. But Cesar always says that for a cat and a dog to live in the same pack, the cat MUST be dominant over the dog. For the obvious reason that the dog could seriously hurt a cat. You sounds like you are doing it exactly right. You are stepping in between the Cocoa & Cleo and correctly Cocoa's behavior. Are you also walking Cocoa everyday while practicing the Cesar walk? If not, I would say to start this right now. I know MinPins have A TON of energy and if you are able to drain alot of this energy with exercise, there will be less available for mischief with Cleo :) Just keep addressing the situation EVERY TIME Cocoa pounces or plays too rough with Cleo and he WILL get the message. But you need to make sure he gets the message every time you give him the correction. Make sure he stops and responds to you by giving you & Cleo submission. You're doing a great job! :) Keep us posted on how things progress!

Kate,, thank you so much for your response.. I am using some of the techniques that I have seen Cesar use, as far as the "walk", is concerned when we go out.. He is still pulling somewhat, but I keep trying to correct this behavior, by using the walk backward system,, and the "pfft",and pullup,on the lead technique. He seems to be a quick learner, so I don't think it will take long before we conquer that. He is only 4 months old now. He came to live with us when he was 10 weeks old, and is already housebroken. I feel very pleased with that part of the training. I feel a little guilty though about Cleo's life disruption. Her whole routine seemed to change after Cocoa arrived. She retreated to the bedroom.. and seems to stay in that area most of the time. I try to re-enforce my affection to her as much as she will allow me to,,since she has never been one of those huggy, lovey, pets.. she has always been one to control how much of that,,she will tolerate..haha. Anyway,, I will continue to do what you said I seem to be doing right,,I'm so glad that I have this puppy,, they are so much fun to watch. Thank you again for your response..
Linda

Unfortunately not enough people understand dog psychology and what it takes to have a "happy" dog. I have a Pit/Lab mix and I constantly pass people on our walks who will go out of their way to avoid her. If I stop to talk to someone who has a dog they get nervous when I say "Pit" and it's very sad. I've defended Tina to a lot of people in this short time I've had her and I hope that I've educated someone along the way.

I took her to the dog park one day and a fellow dog owner did not want me to bring Tina in because she was part Pit. He said his dog was attacked by a Pit in the same park and just doesn't trust the breed. He said they are all bad to which I replied "No they are not." It's this type of ignorance that leads to Pits being euthanized and bans being enforced for these and other "powerful" breeds.

The ending to Vicki's story is a sad one. This woman shouldn't have owned one, let alone, two dogs if she had this tremedous fear. I tell people...if you are afraid the dog can sense it and it doesn't help anyone involved. I'm hoping that someone has learned from this tragedy and will go through the right avenues to help their dog rather than take the "easy way out."

I applaud Cesar for all the work he has done to educate dog owners and even non-dog owners. Through all the behavior problems I've had with Tina, I've learned that exercise is the best thing for her and it has helped us tremedously. I would never think of putting her to sleep just because I couldn't control her. It's just not fair to anyone, especially the dog.

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