This is the truth folks. We have learned so much from the wolves that we can't even remember. This man is remembering and changing your rules.Peace.

I commend you for your work and am also interested in helping and understanding animals that share this earth with us. I definitely believe that your work is unparalleled and absolutely selfless.

Shaun Ellis has fathered four children. How do you think it makes his children feel growing up seeing their dad care more about spending huge amounts of time with animals rather than his own children? I'm all for science and research, but not at the expense of children who need a father in their lives.

Thank you so much for doing this. Maybe you will bring more knowledge to the public on these amazing animals! Keep doing what you're doing!

Well done. Keep up the good work and have fun. There will always be people looking to belittle your work as in all cases such as yours. This world is a better place for pioneers such as yourself and your supporting partner .

I don't think human can teach an animal how to be an animal, this guy might have complete interest in animal - which is perfectly fine, but to think that humans can teach an animal what is already instinctively created in them is ridiculous. The guy ignored his family and his reponsibilities as a father to raise wolves. His passion is commendable, but his neglect of his responsiblities is deplorable...

Is there a web site for Wolf Pack Management in North Devon? Is it open to the public?

This guy is doing fantastic and very important work. Yes, it is possible to teach captive animals to be wild...just as it's possible to domesticate many wild animals. Many species are dying out right now because they only exist in zoos and would die if left on their own. Today's dogs are direct decendents of wolves and have the same instincts, but how many of our domestic canines could fend for themselves and flourish in the wild? The work Shean's doing with these wolves will benefit ALL captive species. As for his children, unless you personally know him and them you cannot know the situation completely so give the guy a break.

If a person leaves an animal alone, they normally will return to their post within 36 to 72 hours......I find it hard to believe the Mother Wolf truely ever Left her young!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am not amazed I have always intoruced myself to other dogs any dog buy my breath and was surprised at how accurate the faces and teeth structure Shaun had developed. I think this is a very natural way to introduce yourself. Having worked with coyotes and wolves and owning many large dangerous "seemingly breed" I have learned that the love you recieve from these animals is true and develops just as our human animal love develops.I would love to study with this man. I think he s brilliant and like Steve Irwin was born with the instinctual rhythmn of wolves, just as Irwin was born with the ability to relax and learn from each animal. Go Shaun.
Blessings. Callie

Short Story: Man raises a couple of wolf pups in a cage at a 25-acre theme park in Devon complete with animated dinosaurs.

Amazing Part: National Geographic filmed it.

Bottom Line: This is stunt TV:

THIS MAN'S WORK IS INCREDIBLE... IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE DID THIS!!!

WE ALL LOVE & CHERISH OUR DOMESTICATED CANINES & WOLVES ARE NO LESS IMPORTANT! ALL DOGS DERIVE FROM THE WOLF & THERE IS SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM, SO MUCH TO LEARN!!!

PEOPLE HAVE LIVED WITH GORILLAS & OTHER TYPES OF ANIMALS, SO WHY NOT THE WOLF? THEY ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN, LIVE IN A FAMILY "PACK" & I BELIEVE YOUR WORK IS HELPFUL & EXTREMELY NEEDED.

WE COULD LEARN SO MUCH MORE ABOUT OUR OWN PETS BY STUDYING THE WOLF, SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S NEGATIVE COMMENTS...

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD VS. BAD OPINIONS IN ANYTHING & EVERYTHING PEOPLE DO...

THOSE WHO ARE EDUCATED & KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT WOLVES WILL LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING & WILL PRAISE YOUR EFFORTS.

THOSE WHO REMAIN UNEDUCATED & IGNORANT WILL CRITIZE, JUDGE & GIVE THEIR NASTY OPINIONS...

JUST KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW YOUR HEART BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE ALL OF THE TIME & YOU HAVE TO LIVE FOR YOURSELF & DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY...

AND IF WHAT YOU DO HELPS BRING THE WOLVES & HUMANS CLOSER IN UNDERSTANDING EACH OTHER, THEN YOU'VE GONE ABOVE & BEYOND WHAT ALL THESE CRITICS ARE CAPABLE OF DOING, SITTING IN THE COMFORT OF THEIR OWN HOMES, BEHIND A COMPUTER, TYPING THEIR NEGATIVE OPINIONS ABOUT YOUR WORK.

JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A MAJORITY OF US OUT HERE WHO SUPPORT YOU, SOME WHO WOULD TRADE PLACES &/OR JOIN YOUR WORK IN A HEARTBEAT & OTHERS WHO COMMEND YOU & SEE YOU AS A VISIONARY, A MAN WITH A STRONG LOVE FOR AN ANIMAL THAT UP UNTIL NOW, PEOPLE HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF & NEED MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i cannot even put into to words the chills that took over my body when i watched the clip for the show airing tonight!! i had tears in my eyes because i was so intrigued by what shaun does . I have always dreamed of interacting with wolves and I am hopefully starting my volunteer work soon at a sanctuary where there are 10 adults and several pups. Shaun is definitely, in my world, the most respected man! He is my hero! I think what he does is absolutely incredible and i want to get involved. I have read many books and watched many documentaries, but I think this one will top them all.I cannot wait to watch it tonight! I have a Siberian Husky who, has very similar mannerisms/characteristics and looks as wolves! good luck with future studies, Shaun!!! keep the spirit alive!!

I have studied wolf behavior for a long period of time, and while I do find this to be a must see program, my only concern is that interacting so closely to a human would eliminate the natural fear that they have, which in many cases surely keeps them alive. The program is on tonight and I am most interested to find out if the wolves are released and mointored closely, and how they survive in the wild. I think this is the most important part of the process, and if they thrive in the wild, then maybe Shaun has something here. To see wild wolves brought into human confinement and kept there the rest of their lives, would be a failure to the hard work I am sure he put into this effort. I certainly would hope that NG would plan a follow up program to show the progress of these particular wolves. I am most interested in watching the program. Wolf

PBurns:

The Dutchers didn't do quite the same thing. They lived around the pack and interacted with them and were accepted by them. What they did not do was BE them.

So the rap here is that Shaun Ellis IS a wolf and not just a heavy set guy in a one acre cage in a petting zoo in Devon?

Right! Breathe deep the ether, because we are going through the Looking Glass now.

Now tell the truth -- how hard was it to shoot around the animated plastic dinosaurs that are the staple of this theme park?

Say what you want, but this is NOT an original idea National Geographic should ask for its money back if it was sold as such.

PBurns

I think it's rather interesting to watch what we can teach wolves as well as learn from them. It may prove to be more enlightening then what just studies and scientists can give us. Would you do it for the sake of knowledge? Someone has to.

I Think this show is great! Im watching it right now, with my mom and dad. Its so instering how he can communate with the wolfs, im so amazed!

While watching the program, it was difficult to decipher the differences between the "calls". Can you offer any insight as to what these differences are? For instance: is the rally howl shorter, longer, higher pitched, etc. than the defense howl for example? Many thanks.

Nice work Shaun. I hope you achieve your goal. I hope wolves everywhere benefit from your work.

The wolves are not wild - they are put on daily viewing for the public, where Shaun's main theme-park job is putting on a "daily howling exhibit."
Don't believe it? See this link: http://www.dinosaur-park.com/wolves.htm

And for the record, Shaun Ellis is not a scientist of any kind. He is not a biologist, nor is he a trained animal behaviorist. He is not even an accredited zoo keeper. Don't believe it? Check out his bio on this web site.

P

I think it is awesome that Mr. Shaun Ellis has done this for the wolf community and humans alike. I would love to be able to do something like he did!

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Many Blessings

Shaun,

Thank you for your eye-opening work. I agree and applaud your efforts. Human beings are the only "mammals" that can destroy this planet - just look at the vanishing rainforests. I do not relish a planet without animals in it, and I want my nephews to inherit this respect for the planet and animals - and Shaun is a great teacher.
To the issue of his responsibilities as a father: how is his work any different than a broker spending endless hours at the office? Or a CEO traveling out of the country for meetings? Are these guys any less of a father? Please, think: family is very important to him - or did you miss the point of the "wolf" pack?

This seems like a much more interactive documentary about animals than any I`ve ever seen. But I wonder about the part where "wolves don`t feel guilt or remorse". I don`t think so, I thought wolves mourned howl if their puppies went missing or a pack memeber died. Anyways, this looks great!

I wathced the show on National Geographic last night. I just want to say this to Mr. Ellis, I admire you for giving up everything to be with these wolves. I think it is wonderful that a man has taken the time to learn about how the wolves live and actually has in a way become a wolf. It is very crucial to understand how we can help to protect these wonderful animals from being destoyed. I absolutley love wolves and I hope to one day be able to work with those who are dedicated to saving them. I think they are beautiful, noble, and very deserving of our respect. Keep up the good work Mr. Ellis!

hey this is berry I'm 18 years old and I really like how you like wolfs thay are one of my faveit and I would like it if you would tell me all about them because I would like to leren about them

What you are doing is remarkable and unselfish. It takes a lot of courage and motivation. Great job. You are experiencing and learning a lifestyle/language that maybe has long been lost. We need to help and protect nature and its creatures. I wish you nothing but success and blessings.

Interesting program. It's a real stretch to compare Shaun to Steve Irwin though. He could do this the rest of his life and still not be anywhere near the caliber of animal expert that Steve Irwin was. I do think that the interest in wolves that this program has generated is worth whatever criticism Shaun is getting! The great thing about this is that it's generating more interest in the wolves plight here in the US. Thanks Michael for your insight.

Dear Shaun,
We have 8 wolves that we have raised since they were pups. Two, the Alpha male and female had a litter of 5 and we did not handle the pups. We watched and documented the parents raising them. As we watched the peking order develope over the years we had to separate them as they are all adults and were continuing to challenge each other. We separated them into two's in a kennel. It has kept them from ganging up on each other. I have a homepage on aol that I would very much like you to visit. I have given my life to raising these wolves and have had many special experiences with them. I have had them for 9 years now. They are all sterilized and micro chipped as the law requires since 2000. I do feed them venison and the Alpha male and female get the heart and liver as you do! It was really exciting to see you on film as I have also done the same with the wolves at their early stage in life like biting their ears! I hope to hear from you when you have time. Thank you so much for sharing your life with the world. I am a reclusive person but I am devoted to my wolves. They are my life and my family thinks it is great for me to be so focused on something so beautiful. Again thank you for supporting the wolf.
Johanna Molenaar

He is my hero becuase he's doing something few are brave enough to do.I love wolves with the same kind of passion and i only wish i had the chance to do what he's doing.Which is infact,helping to save the wolve population.

this is awesome what you are doing. i don't have cable so i didn't know about this, but thanks to my sister i do. Keep up the great work. Good Luck. into the future. I'm looking forward into seeing your name in the future.

thanks,
killer-shorti

Shaun,

I am a new admirer of your work.

As I am someone whose passion includes a greater understanding of animal behavior (wild or domestic) in general, I find your work to be not only spot-on, but fascinating and thought-provoking as well.

It shows a great deal of dedication on your part, to have made the decisions you have, to further the worlds' understanding of your life work. I, for one, appreciate the effort, the study, and the time that goes into the applications of all that work.

Please continue to "think out of the box", and please keep the world up to date on how your research and techniques for furthering your relationship with the wolves evolve over time.

Thank you,
Deb

Although Mr. Ellis' research is considered unique it is not unprecedented. Instinctual behavior in wolves is just that: instinctual. Whether a wolf is raised by a person, a monkey or another wolf, they will still have the predatory behavior of a wolf, they will still have an urge to establish a social structure and they will still know how to howl.
Dogs have lost some of those instincts because they were domesticated, a human-influenced selective breeding process which stretches hundreds of generations and thousands of years, not because peope "trained" the instincts out of them.
This research is interesting, however I agree with the individual who referenced Treadwell. There may be a time where Mr. Ellis becomes too comfortable "being" a wolf and forgets that they are indeed wild, unpredictable animals.

i love wolfs. there is so much to learn about them . and he is doing so much for them. they will make it loner now

Ok folks - let's clear the air here a wee bit, shall we?

I am looking over all the blogs here, and overall am feeling a bit ill at ease with all the "fluff" I see written by well meaning, but sadly misinformed individuals.

Shaun is doing a cool thing IN AND OF ITSELF - but make no mistake here - there is no comparison to be found between his captive pack, and the wild wolves I track and study here in Idaho and Montana.

Think about it for a moment - how can anyone equate his efforts in England to having any degree of effect on the wellbeing of wolves running wild in the States?

That is just rubbish - He is simply spending time with a captive pack, that may exhibit wolf behavior characteristics on a basic level, but remain a far cry from wolves in the wild.

I spent time with the famous Sawtooth Pack, greeted and walked among them, learned their hierarchy and the dynamics within the pack between individual members, and they were certainly wolves! But they were also lacking a certain thing that their wild relatives do have - freedom and lack of human contact, socialising, or other interference, that would negatively impact a wolf wolf pack born wild.

If anyone cares to eliminate their laymans' affectation of showing such fluff and stated love for animals that are meat eating predators, and really wants to actually learn about, and help protect the animals of their professed passion - here is how to do it - the ONLY way to do it .........

Get an education, majoring in biology, do some independent research for thesis on wolves in the wild, serve a brief internship at a decent wolf facility to get an understanding of the basics of their behavior, how a pack functions, and WHY. Ofcourse, brushing up on habitat type and identification, herbavores that live within these habitat types that also feed wolves, studying population densities and trends protracted over time of subsequent seasons, what affects these populations in terms of weather patterns creating drought, low graze availability, winter die offs, etc. etc. are all part of one having an understanding of the variables and factors that directly affect a wolf pack.

Commit yourself to spending unusally long and fruitless days weeks and even months, in the field where you determine your wolves reside, without even seeing one or hearing a howl! Then do it some more, as you improve your skills (were talking years now)until such time as you find yourself gettin out there and NOT alerting the entire forest to your presence. Then find your wolves, determine the respectful distance and observe them for months, in all seasons, especially in February, as they breed - their highest activity period within the given year. This will require days of snowshoeing to get in to where a pack normally lives, so strenuous excercise daily is required to pull that one off. Couch potatoes should not be wolf biologists!

Once you have decent tracking skills, traveling in adverse terrain and horrible weather conditions, staying out there many nights and freezing and hungry, no longer affects you so bad, and you know how to observe the wolves without impacting them with your presence, you may now put your study and data gathering protocols you spent so much money in school learning, to use.

Next you need an underwriting agency to provide you with the specialized equipage and materials, and stuff you will need merely to survive long stays of up to 3 months or more at a time, since you obviously cannot hold a pay job on such a schedule.

Assuming you have this going on already, finally you need a place to publish your findings to the public and the scientific community.

If you have accomplished all the aforementioned pre-requisites, well then congratulations, for you are NOW a wolf research biologist.

And THAT my friends is the devotion, dedication, DISCIPLINE, it takes to really help the wolves!

In case you'all we're wonderin?

So pleasssssse! No more of this Shaun is a god, ok?

Michael A Anderson

i like your story. it reminds me of my friends wolf.

Please tell me when or if this program will be shown again-I missed the April showings.

Why would you offer him a cookie?

Interesting, potentially very informative approach - no doubt. Innovative to a certain point, Erik Ziemen did much of the same, perhaps not as "extreme" and to the extent Shaun is doing it, nevertheless, the approach is not novel.

However, I would like to see the application of the "scientific method" on these observations, which would provide validity and authority to the results.

For example, make an observation (about anything, from the many observations that are being made through "life with the pack"), formulate a testable hypothesis, and design positive and negative controls. Repeat each individual experiment three times independently, record the results, apply statistical analysis, publish the results in Science or Nature, rather than on TV, otherwise the entire operation remains anectodal and entertaning at best.

Capture both the popular interest as well as the scientific community's respect. Now, that would be exceptional AND useful.

Cheers and good luck...

Dan

Hi Mike

Your question is definetly interesting and a testable hypothesis could be designed to see whether captive raised wolves have the appropriate skills to survive in the wild where wild wolves exist.

For example, take three of Shaun's "captive-raised-by-human-acting like-wolf-educated" wolves and set them free in the roaming range of their wild counterparts with tracking devices. As a positive control take three wolves that grew up wild from another geographical region (which should survive and adapt reasonably), as a negative control take three wolves raised by humans as "pets or like dogs" (sadly, there are plenty such confused creatures). The wild wolves should be fine and survive, perhaps even integrate in the existing wild packs, the domesticated wolves would be expected to perish in time and Shaun's wolves? Who knows...

What do you think?

There are plenty of experiments of the sort that could/should be done. I am not an expert in this, just a molecular biologist with and an animal affictionado with a special love for wolves and a little bit of reading behind me (Erik Ziemen, Konrad Lorenz, et al.)...

Cheers

Dan

Yes Roxxy - I once had the prettiest little black female wolf - her name was Samantha, and just a sweetheart to all! She was murdered by a neighbor who hated wolves - I just about murdered the neighbor in return, as I hold animals lives in higher regard than most people I have met - the neighbor was a perfect example of why this is.

Anyway, her loss broke my heart, and took some time before I could get past it.

Therefore, you have my deepest condolences!

Michael Anderson

Butt out Lynx - noone asked for your attack on me, I do not know who the hell you are, do not care, and for your information I do not have ANY piece of paper - I learned the long hard way, hands on. But I am not going to waste time with listing the qualifications I do possess on such as you.

If you live near wild wolves, observe them - a lot -, have worked at a wolf center, with captive wolves, then I wish to hear your thoughts - not attacks mind you, but thoughts and friendly opinions even if different than ours (mine or Dan's)

But for you to come out of nowhere with the attack - especially when the discussion is soooo done with for weeks now - I am talking with Dan about an idea I have, he has, and Shaun's plan to release his pack to wild lands, and how research could take shape from this. We're not talking to you, nooone has forced you to read these blogs, so if ya do not like something - fine. Don't read the page.

I will re-iterate what I said before - Quote: "kudos to Shaun", un-quote. looking around for negativity in "kudos to Shaun" - nope - do not see any here!? HMMMM. Sounds like praise to me!

As for validity of un-educated tree hugger wolf lover fluffy stuff bloggers going all smoochie over Shaun's antics on TV, and believing his thing is going to help wolves here, is a far stretch to accept, and I tire of well intentioned, yet mis-guided folks stirring things up with utterances or actions of no actual value or direct positive outcome on behalf of my wolves here.

I am not a jealous man - I do not prefer any limelite - I like the loner route - I am a dispersed individual myself - like the animals I study and spend time with on their terms. What pisses me off is that everyone is goggling over Shaun's little thing he does in England, oohing and awwing and drooling over their feet, while I am desperately trying to get people involved HERE where real wolves live, to help me educate the public about the need for their protection to continue. They are now delisted and our own Governor has stated his intention to kill the first 500 wolves in Idaho!!! This is now!

So yeah I am very pissed about the fluff going on in Merry Ole England, when Americans should prioritise the wolves who need us instead of a TV drama. But we live in a world where frigging NFL football takes priority over American Soldiers and Marines getting shot at _ I am a vet so screw all of ya - I will rip yur heads off and piss down yur necks, if ya dont like my views and opinions, and as a Marine, I can do it pretty easily.

So friggen get with the program there YOU!!!! ALL OF YOU! OOORAH!

Semper Fi
Michael A Anderson

Lynx and PBurns are shinning examples as to why I live for the animals. I hate humans with a passion, and I thank you Anderson for your words on the matter of my loss.

Go ahead and attack me if you like...your words mean nothing to me.

I think you are amazing! Sadly, I don't get the National Geographic Channel and it kills me knowing that I'm missing it all!!!! I can't wait until it's all on DVD. I wish they were. My birthday is tomorrow so I'll buy them as a belated birthday present to myself.

:]

Take care, and show them how it's done!

Personally,i will watch the programme to see what its like as i have never heard of this guy and its on in the uk this week. I,like a lot of you think wolves are amazing animals and will find it interesting,but what i find more interesting is us humans here argueing about some programme!

This guy is a fraud. Lived with wolves for 2 years my arse, ask the locals in combe martin for the true story.

He left his family, they didnt leave him!

Organisations who care for wolves would not continuously breed them in such a restricted environment. This is all about the cash.

Answer to the above question re. Sheep predation by wolves .......

This IS open to discussion, folks - I welcome input and theory! I would also be interested in what Shaun Ellis has to say in this matter, were he to see this post! Read on ........!

"Wolf depredation upon sheep (in some ways to lesser degree, this applies to other domestic livestock, excluding domestic canines):

Wolves most likely view sheep, when encountered, as a curiosity, a potential "play-thing", but not neccessarily as a prey species a wolf will actively pursue and kill as a food source.

We may think this behavior is motivated by hunger, and presumably to the wolf's way of thinking, that sheep are a target of easy opportunity. They would be easy to catch and overcome, with no risk of physical harm to the wolf, such as would be the case with Elk or Moose - Many wolves perish from injuries incurred while attempting to take down their natural prey. This is a lot of the reason why wild wolves who live beyond 10 years are an anomoly, average age at death being around 8 years. B2M - One the first four originally released wolves in Idaho, in 01/1995 - a 4-5 year old wolf at time of release - was found dead in 2003, having attained the age of 13 years. This is an extremely rare occurance. He was actively with a mate the year prior, and it is thought by those who investigated the circumstances in which he was found, that it was possible the bull elk carcass found with him, had done for him during the fight between it and B2M, before the prey was subdued. His real name was Chat Chaaht, and his home range was the White Cloud/Boulder Mountains - about 175 miles due S.East of me, in Central Idaho. His first mate, B66F, was also thought killed by an elk. This provides clear example as to how difficult and risk fraught, the hunt can be for the wolf.

So one might conclude that sheep provide wolves with much safer prey, but this might very well be far from the mark as to the real reasons, or incentives, at least initially, as to why the wild wolves are killing sheep. Especially when their own natural prey remains in normal abundance within the pack range.

Observing my own wolf at home and in the "field", gave me an inspiration to observe a wolf pack near me who at the time was located adjacent to a sheep herd, last summer (2006). The wolves indeed "attacked" the herd, BUT did not consume the "prey" once it was brought down. In observing this behavior, it brought to mind the antics of my own wolf when he plays the "chase game" with me.

I began to suspect that (one), sheep are a curiosity at best, (two), they smell "wrong" from what wolves instinctually know and recognise as their prey, (three), sheep act and react differently than what wolves percieve as a proper prey behavior pattern - especially when chased.

Anyone who has worked with or around wolves, wild, or captive in a sanctuary, should recall that usually, to a wolf, anything new, and not obviously a prey or food item, can only therefore be a "toy" or a threat. In which case, if it is "toy", wolves will create fun and exciting methods to exploit this "new" thing. Said item, object, or in the case of sheep perhaps, will ofcourse suffer complete annihilation at the tooth and paw of the wolf, but the wolf will enjoy the interlude of this "play" immensely!

If a human were to become accepted as a surrogate member to a functioning pack, and began to sprint away from the wolves, if he did it right and did not startle the pack into a fear reaction, and timed his actions right according to the mood of the wolves, they would most likely give chase, and "catch" this "playful one", or stare at him like he or she was an idiot - that happens some times. It becomes a game that all wolves love and live for. The wolves who catch the person would be likely to nip him or her, but we react with a defense mechanism, be it mild scolding, or if we dare, turning table on the wolf, and chasing him. I do not recommend this activity, as it can very likely result in heightened emotion within the pack, and can result in an act of aggression on the part of the wolves. There is a very fine line between what is "fun", and what is challenge. Wolves will react accordingly to their perceptions. People among wolves must always be aware of what the pack is doing and feeling, and limit their own involvement or interaction, with moderation, common sense, and appropriate times. I have been "tested" by a wolf during play interaction, and recieved a nip in my "cheek" - (the lower one), and it hurt like hell! To the wolf, this is normal stuff to enjoy the doing of, as a fun way to test another "member", and it certainly does not hurt another wolf, but for a human, can lead to an injury, and in some cases, worse - it can trigger aggression. Playful nips although fun and games, serve a deeper, and instinctual purpose - a process of determining rank within the hierarchy, and therefore can be dangerous for humans. For obvious reasons.

[Humans - whatever else you do with wolves, when amongst a pack - even a domesticated single wolf in the home - you ARE ALWAYS subject to the wolves' hierarchy, terms, and rules of engagement, and we are expected to act within compliance of the packs', or wolf's, social ranking - we must earn our place within the dynamic of the pack. To lose focus of this law, is to invite potential harm or tragedy. Remember - a wolf cannot help it's own nature, and it therefore becomes our responsibility to help it avoid penalty, by understanding this, and acting in accordance. Wild wolves must be left strictly alone! To observe from distance, and the wolves will let ya know what they feel is respectful, is great and I encourage this! To interfere with or intrude, or otherwise affect a wolf pack is wrong, and can result in the death of wolves in worst case situations!]

This being said, sheep create a new catagorie - one with which the wolf is unfamiliar, and therefore has limited options in behavior when things like sheep are encountered. As a curiosity or new thing, the wolf, by his very nature must investigate this thing. Behavior is dictated and acted out - the wolves check out the new "smelly" thing. Behavior is once again dictated - the new thing runs; the wolves want to chase it - it is fun! Behavior once again dictated - the thing is caught, panicked, struggling, and is now vulnerable - the wolves instinctually shift into kill mode - again, this is their nature, and why it is not wise to "play run" from wolves as a human. When anything is finally caught and held, it triggers a reflexive action in a wolf, as a predator, to subdue. If it is a game, with another wolf, ranking notwithstanding, it is fun and teaches younger wolves an important rule of the hunt or proper conduct within the pack - an important part of their socialization. For anything not wolf, it can become deadly serious, when they become the object of the chase. So it is for sheep. The wolves apparently do not like the taste of mutton - at first - it is not a natural prey to wolves, at least not at the purest biological sense of instinctual levels as elk or deer would be. So the new toy is dead - what now? The wolves disperse to other needs.

Many will argue that wolves are merely opportunistic killers, period and simple. I disagree with this simplified catchall explanation of the dynamics at work. There is always a reason why a wolf kills another animal, just as there is always a specific reason why a wolf will devour it's prey, or choose not to. To the layperson with no real background in wolf education - and this would include most ranchers or herdsmen - observing wolves chasing or bringing down their livestock, is to them, simply a vicious action to witness, and the observer in this case can discern nothing in variance from attack to attack. It just appears to be hungry wolves killing his stock. To one with good and sound wolf background, as a behaviorial expert, there would be subtle variances in the wolves' behavior before, and during the attack. It would catagorise between an attack on a natural prey species, an attack on a domestic species recognised as similar to a prey species, defined by the wolf's inate parameters, and initiated out of hunger, or an "attack" on a strange new animal, not yet clearly defined within the wolf's viewpoint, or experience. This is therefore a new or "modified behavior" for the wolf, in actions regarding the chasing and killing of sheep as an example species, and yet with a clear demonstration of no intention to devour the carcasses. I once had a Gray Wolf who ate beef, elk, venison, antelope, most poultry, etc., and with usual wolf enthusiasm. But when offered fresh domestic goat meat, refused to go near it, and would never eat from the bowl in which it was offered, again. It was new, foreign, smelled wrong to his experiences with food, and was therefore, not good to eat. I think domestic sheep are presenting a similar conundrum to the wolves who chase them. And what I witnessed as it transpired, convinced me that the wolves were in playful spirit as they chased down the fleeing sheep - they did not demonstrate behaviors normally associated with hunger and initial deadly intent. Wolves must not be confused with feline predators in that they do not "play" with and maim their prey as cats are wont to do, before devouring the prey. I am open to other opinions, as this is not a satisfactorily concluded subject in my mind, as yet - it requires much more research yet, and must therefore remain subjective, pending.

The poor herdsman does not know or understand any of the dynamics involved here - just that his sheep are all dead or maimed - he is thankful it wasn't his favorite Pyrenees - this time! A domestic Canine creates a whole other quite serious set of circumstances for the wolf - one in which the wolves will display deadly intent and mindful desire to destroy the dog. Guard dogs are exactly that - in place to help the herdsman safeguard his flock, and as such, being the brave and loyal souls they are, will never back down from the attack. But there can ever only be one outcome in any situation where dog versus wolf pack occurs, and we all know how horiffic this can be for the dog's owner. To the wolf, it is elimination of threat, and tresspass. Buisness as usual.

In situations where sheep have been brought down AND at least partially devoured, and wolves were implicated as culpable for the act, this clearly would suggest a pattern of behavior modification. Towit: the chase game evolves into the actual hunt for food, as a "taste" for this prey develops after repetitive encounters with the sheep, the wolves natural prey is no longer in balanced population density for that region, and hunger within a pack will instinctually drive the wolf to adapt to what there is in availability. And afterall, the sheep have already demonstrated themselves an easy and safe takedown. Wolves have wonderful memory, and would ofcourse return with serious intent, to a sheep herd, should elk, moose, or deer be lacking in the wolves' range. Especially true for single dispersed, or paired wolves. A single wolf can bring down a bull elk, but usually pays some price for his or her efforts, oftentimes with injuries that simply cannot be survived. And the normal hunt, even for a pack working in concert, in terms of success, is mediocre at best - hunts fail to yield results far more often than they are successful.

So it is highly plausable that wolves will eventually find themselves with limited prey options, and eventually turn to sheep as a food source. But I submit that with a normal prey to wolf balance in force, the sheep will ever remain nothing more than an oddity that is fun to chase and bite. Therefore, for the nonce, they are chased, killed, and left.

Game over.

Michael A Anderson

You are a very brave man. It was a shame that you partner left you. But she must have not seen how brave you are for doing this. The wolves could have ripped you apart, yet that chose not to. And that itself desearves an award for you risking your life for your 'science'.

As a wolf biologist and researcher, Lil, I gotta tell you- wolves do not rip people apart - he is at no real risk - He is an accepted "member" of the pack. There is no bravery to it - just common sense, and understanding wolf society. Many of us have been in with packs who had never met us previously, and we were just fine and accepted.

Is there anyone amongst you all who would like to help me start up a wolf sanctuary/park or similar. I am based in Finland with 85 acres of forest land plus house of course, outbuildings, barn and workshop (hopefully education centre)All situated within a very large forest and with our own resident wild wolves. Pack of 9. amongst other animals such as Moose etc. It is a beautiful location with my own lake all ideal for wolves. There are also enclosures for wolves, wolfdogs already built.
I keep Huskies and Alaskan Malamute and some wolfdogs.
It is also ideal for anyone who likes to take advantage of the snow in winter to do some husky sledding. I am quite close to the largest all year round tourist attraction so also good for visitors to a wolf park. If anyone is interested or has any ideas for this property with HUGE potential then please contact me at arcticbreeds@yahoo.co.uk I am not opposed to relocating either if anyone is interested in buying my property or wants help with their wolves in another country please contact me.

"The Pack" article, "written by Shaun Ellis" on the wolfpack management site

http://wolfpack-management.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=49

Wikipedia article, not written by Shaun Ellis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Wolf#Social_structure_and_hunting

Can someone say "plagarism?"

I do work with wolves at an educational facility(I have wolf spit on me right now). Our speciality is in social behavior. We've been studying the dynamics of a multi-generational pack since 1972. All our wolves are hand raised, and we interact with them on a daily basis. It's not a new concept.

I'm all for wolf education (the more the merrier!) but it's frustrating seeing misleading information and just bad information making it to television. National Geographic no less! (Didn't you guys have higher standards?)

Has anyone really questioned the whole "abandoned wolf puppy" senario? The "abandoned" pups were actually born to Pale Face and Elu, 2 of Shaun's other wolves. To socialize wolves to humans you HAVE to take them away from their mother before they are 18 days old and intensively hand raise them. There are benefits to the pups in the long run, including a less stressful life in captivity, greater ease in vet care, etc. Abandonment is rare in captive wolves- if the mother did abandon them, I'd like to know why (health, stress levels, or just a mother who didn't get it are some possibilities). That would be valuable information for other people who manage captive packs.

You can tell rank order by what a wolf eats??? I've never seen any pattern to who eats what. All of the wolves eat the different parts of a carcass. Shaun's senario would result in an unbalanced diet for everybody in the pack.

There are gaps in Shaun's logic that you could drive a truck through.

As a professional who watches/interacts with wolves on a daily basis I'd like to say I've never growled at any of the wolves, never bitten any of the wolves, never had to eat deer liver to prove I was dominant to any of the wolves. I do wash my clothes, I do take showers and I do go home to sleep and it hasn't affected my relationship with any of the wolves I've known.

My advice to people who are interested in wolves is to read as much as possible by different people. You want to get close to wolves? Volunteer for an educational facility- there are lots of them in the US, or a rescue facility- they can always use help as well. You want something more educational? We run seminars and have internships available. Use your own eyes,ears and brain to evaluate the information you are given, don't take anything as the gospel without some critical thinking.

Gale Motter
Curator
Wolf Park
Battle Ground, IN 47920
www.wolfpark.org
gale@wolfpark.org

Michael Anderson, you are SO full of yourself, I can't believe it. regardless of your expertese in whatever field you are in ... I have never read such arrogant behaviour as yours, it's like you think you're some kind of god or something. I'd like 15 seconds in a dark room with you and a small knife.

Kudos!

What Mr. Ellis is and has done is absolutely amazing. It is true that the wolves he is working with are "tame", but a wild creature is just that---WILD! Case in point, the recent attacks at zoos by primates. No matter where a creature is born and raised, it keeps it's instincts. Even circus and other performing animals have been known to become agitated and vicious. I feel Mr. Ellis's work is very important for learning about the language (body and vocal) that a wolf displays. I also feel people would accept him more if he was to venture out into true wilderness and establish himself into a pack with minimal human history. I would love to see him armed with creature cams and his knowledge, making it where no human has truly gone before. Of course there would be no flash cooked hearts, but hey, he couldn't really start at the top anyway. This is something that would take years to realise, but he would really live with wolves. The only cost factor would be the cameras, including fresh ones that would have to be air dropped. If it is something his stomach and family could handle of course. Other than that, I say way to go and good luck with your pursuits.

B

Michael Anderson,

I value your opinion...so I ask you this...

How do you tell your pack...Your family...that you won't be with them forever? How do you tell them...let them know that the day you left and came back smelling of Latex and sickness...you knew you didn't have much time...

In case you don't completely understand the question...

How do you tell your pack that you may be dieing?

...Any one may answer...

Well people - blogs are getting fewer and fewer between here, I notice, so I am going to offer an MSN Group which anyone can join and participate in. It is called "Wolf Speak", and is a place for contributions of knowledge, research, and discussions about our favorite animals - the wolf. Anything about wolves, be it personal experiences, something one has read, data or research, or someone just wishing to post an open discussion, will be welcome here! Photos as well!

I feel this is a good step in researching wolves, thru the common interests and efforts of all of you, and will lead toward good sound information for continued efforts in public education. Be welcome - be at peace!

Anyone who is interested should email me at: blackwolfarisen@hotmail.com, and I will provide the link then.

Michael A Anderson

Shaun: I was so interested in your program about how much you love the wolves. Your love for the animals touched my heart and I saw that you were showing on National Georgraphic on June 3/07 but I am not able to find out when it is going to air. Could you email me and let me know if you have any idea. Thanks for caring.

Christine

I came on here to comment on how much I enjoyed the show and learned alot more just by reading the comments.

I must add my jaw dropped at the person that threatened Mr. Anderson, no words. Just WRONG!!!!!

It's great that there are people who care about wolves. I'm from Bulgaria and here there are many people who don't like wolves. And this is sad. So, keep doing the good work Shaun no matter what some people said! I hope there are other films about wolves too. Good luck!

I´d like to know how I can get in touch with Shaun. I do research about depredation of livestock by wild mammals in Brazil and I think his methods may be one of the world solution for this wildlife-human conflict.
Thanks

Shaun Ellis is to Wolves what Jane Goodall was to Chimpanzees. Such a misunderstood creature is a worthy subject to study. This total emersion into their world is clearly not without great sacrifice and signigant risk. I commend Shaun for his efforts.
Jay

This is not science, it is a TV-show. Just stupid entertaiment with no scientific value. A variation of "reality-show".

Leave the wolves alone!
Go back to your real familiy.

hi, i think its your passion but it all depends upon your mentality $ your family relations. if u r married then u areen`t alone .u can`t leave your family alone.u r doing a dangeros job which requires some reasonable attention.think that u would take care of yourself. wishing u avery good luck.rakesh ,48, bhagwan das hostel, bhu, varanasi ,india -211005

hi shaun
saw the show on wednesday sept 12,it was a little frightening but was amazing to see you in there with the wolves,do you often get hurt by them ,because your not with them 24/7 how do they know you are you because you will have different smells on you every time you are with them.
thank you ,would never see anything like that.x

It's amazing how this person manages to interact with wolves whereas human beings so often do not manage to communicate amongst themselves. Perhaps the wisdom Shaun Ellis has been gaining from his life with wolves could help people from my own region, the Middle East, to find peace at last between our nations.

woa this man is great! chidisimo

really a good work!

and is amazing , is very very dangerous works with lobos.

Does anyone know how to contact Shaun Ellis?

As a human being I have long been convinced, like jean de la fontaine masterfully proved through his animal tales, that man has a lot to learn from animal behaviour. In fact I still don't come to understand why man is not ready to accept the fact that man is an animal himself and that we are not different from wolves in terms of social behaviour. What shaun is doing on a daily basis has i believe nothing to do with politics but relates to survival tactics one who has chosen to live among a pack is to adopt. At least his experience teaches us that man is an animal like any other living organic creature on earth, made of flesh and blood and that our species is much better than monkeys at aping other creatures.
Apes at least have learnt how to remain silent otherwise their fellow ceatures would exploit them for work just like humans do. in a nutshell, I must say tarzan is a sissy compared to Shaun. This man might soon mate with a wolf, who knows what weird offspring they might beget...
Deep respect for you shaun...
Valwings

As a human being I have long been convinced, like jean de la fontaine masterfully proved through his animal tales, that man has a lot to learn from animal behaviour. In fact I still don't come to understand why man is not ready to accept the fact that man is an animal himself and that we are not different from wolves in terms of social behaviour. What shaun is doing on a daily basis has i believe nothing to do with politics but relates to survival tactics one who has chosen to live among a pack is to adopt. At least his experience teaches us that man is an animal like any other living organic creature on earth, made of flesh and blood and that our species is much better than monkeys at aping other creatures.
Apes at least have learnt how to remain silent otherwise their fellow ceatures would exploit them for work just like humans do. in a nutshell, I must say tarzan is a sissy compared to Shaun. This man might soon mate with a wolf, who knows what weird offspring they might beget...
Deep respect for you shaun...
Valwings

Hi Shaun, ti scrivo dall'Italia sperando che qualcuno possa tradurti le mie poche parole. Volevo solo dirti che ammiro il lavoro che fai e che a distanza condivido il tuo metodo, il tuo interesse, il tuo amore per quegli splendidi animali che si chiamano lupi. Mi auguro che nessuna lobbi scientifica ti metta i bastoni tra le ruote e che tu possa continuare la tua opera con tutta la tua forza e la tua energia, oltre la tua grande passione per quelle meravigliose creature.
Ciao
Enrica

Hi Shaun,
i feel that your work IS important to mankind, science and family, seeing as wolves operate around family just like we do. it must be said that learning from these peaceful creatures is a necessity. a lot of excersises and movements in Kung-Fu have been taken from animal behaviour and adopted by humans.

i wish i could live without technology and give back what we have taken to the earth and all its creatures.

keep up the good work.

P.S. does anybody know what type of wolf the german shepherd dog originated from?
i have a german shepherd and love both her and wolves.

Pat

Hi Shaun,
I'm in Australia. Just watched your show on Animal Planet. Fantastic. Most people think that humans are above everything else. I do not. I believe animals have it right. It took a tremendous amount of humility for you to join the pack and I applaud you for shifting your spirit into their world rather than trying to make them fit into ours. Your purpose is your purpose. The wolves know your work is good.
Hugs,
Lisa J Aston
Australia

I think what Shaun Ellis is doing is good to try to save the species and educate people to understand wolves. However, I thought the program was going to be more of a series where Shaun told of his progress with the wolves.

It is possible for a human to teach a tame animal to be wild, afterall Joy and George Adamson did it with Elsa the lioness in Africa. The book and movie Born Free is based upon that experience. Sadly the lioness died about three years after her release into the wild due to an infection she caught from flies, I believe the Tse Tse fly.

I am a goat farmer, and where I live we have many, many coyotes, and perhaps a few wolves if any. I would not like to see animal populations of any species wiped out completely by humans or otherwise, but I will do what is necessary to protect my livestock. I pen them up at night, and at all times keep a Great Pyrenees with them.

Like I said I don't want to see the coyote, wolve or any animal wiped out completely, as they have their place. But I also don't like to see my livestock picked off one by one with each one terrified to go out into the field because they don't know which one will be next.

I've never shot a coyote or wolf, but if I had to to save a goat, I will.

Hi --

Idaho Fish and Game recently released its draft plan for managing wolves in our state once federal protections are lifted. Unfortunately, the state’s plan is more focused on killing than conservation.

I just wrote a message to Idaho Fish and Game officials demanding a balanced approach to wolf management in Idaho -- and you can, too. Just go to this web site to take action -- but hurry, the deadline for comments is December 31st:

http://action.defenders.org/opposeidahoswolfplan

It’s vital that wolf supporters weigh in on Idaho’s plan to kill hundreds of wolves once federal protections are removed. If the state’s plan is approved, there could be devastating consequences for the wolves in Idaho and in the entire Northern Rockies region.

Idaho’s just-released wolf “management” plan is more about extermination than management, and seems bent on slashing the wolf population in the state to the bare minimum -- just short of triggering renewed federal intervention and jeopardizing the long-term viability of wolves in northern Rockies.

Send a message today before the December 31st deadline to help give wolves a real future Idaho and the Northern Rockies.

http://action.defenders.org/opposeidahoswolfplan

Thanks!

I agree wholeheartedly that humans need to learn more about wolf behavior and that it's important to re-introduce wolves to the wild. However, Shaun Ellis is no expert. When I read his coffee-table book, "spirit of the Wolf", I couldn't believe the things he wrote that had absolutely no basis in fact. His experiment with using recorded wolf howls to drive other wolves from the property DID work, at least for a short time -- however, that's the only thing that has validated him.
I suggest reading the publications of Wolf Park in Battleground, Indiana, and reading "Decade of the Wolf" by Doug Smith. "Of Wolves and Men" by Barry Lopez is also a great and accurate read. The International Wolf Center in Eli, Minnesota, has plenty of correct information to offer.
While I know there's plenty I haven't found out about wild canids, I cannot stand by while people are being fed blatantly false information.

I wish all the luck to you guys who study wolves and want to learn how to best preserve the species. However, a lot of people are using livestock as a major source of income, so how are you going to change people's attitudes for an animal that can and will seriously affect a person's livelihood?

Shaun Ellis says in Man Among Wolves that he is looking for a place in North America to set his wolves free but hasn't found a place yet. I don't think it's going to be easy for him. Not only that, but why bring them to America and not turn them loose in England where he lives?

In an area where there is mostly livestock, how you going to teach wolves not to attack them and only go after wild prey? Naturally they are going to go for the easy stuff, and that's animals kept in fields and pens where they don't have much chance to get away.

I don't want to see the wolve, coyote, or any animal eliminated completely, as some species already have been due to humans mainly, but I guess I'm biased because I'm a goat person raising goats. There's a whole lot of cattlemen around me. Once a neighbor had the ag-department come in a helicopter and shoot coyotes from it because he said he was loosing too many calves, and I think they did get some, but it didn't make that much of a dent in the population as a whole around here.

I don't see a real bright future for wolves, beautiful an animal as they are, if they are turned loose and then attack people's livestock. On Man Among Wolves a guy said concerning the wolves that had been turned loose at Yellowstone Park that there were more wolves outside the park than there were in it, and killing livestock. So what are you going to do? We can't stop raising livestock, so what's the solution?

That which is done by this man shall do much Though i am a bit curies the show mentioned him bein a wolf behaviorist am i not correct? How can one be a wolf behaviorist what is needed what required to do so?

could you please email me the name of the alpha male wolf in your pack?

Its great he's doing this work. i myself would love to and have recently(not even because of this) thought about changing my college profession from interior design to wolf bio or some thing along the lines. im not 100 % sure obviously, but we will see.

I am only in the sixth grade and ever since I saw the movie blood and chocolate about the real story of ware wolves I became more interested in wolves. I found out about Shaun Ellis on youtube when I saw a preview for the show A Man Among Wolves, it said that the you can buy the dvd at barns and noble. When I was there I found a book by Shaun Ellis called the Spirit Of The Wolf, in the begining of the book I talks about how shaun got into working with wolves, it has a lot of pictures of wolves and a lot of information about wolves. Inever saw the show about wolves but someday I might. ive been studing wolf raising so if I do become a wolf breeder im going to have to move to wyoming or texas or alaska etc.

Cute pics!!!

i have been to devon, seen and spoken to shawn ellis, i have seen the pack (and shawn) eat from a carcas, wot ever anyone says he treats his pack with total respect as they do with him. You need to see wot he does with his pack befor you pass judgment, not just sit in your chair at home and watch a program that has been edited.

To everyone that keeps on saying how horrible Shaun is and that his children need him------He fathered the children and is morally obligated to them but he has followed his heart and is doing what everyone needs to be doing taking care of what we have tried to destroy--we invaded the animals habitate and that is a fact, I applaude Shaun and his work.Shaun Keep up the work you are doing.You are great.

My name is Jenna, and I don't really know what to say. I thought I was the only one who really felt that this could be done and I saw this man, Shaun Ellis, and my jaw dropped so far open I almost couldn't pick it up. I am at a loss of words. My heart goes out to these majestic creatures, and I understand there language as well. I would live with them also.

what you did was great i visited the zoo where the wolves were, while you were recording the program, and adoped the cub Tejas. i loved watchin the program, i whis i could something like that.

I Served in the Commandos with sean years ago. He was a gent and a top man then I am now a Regimental Sergeant Major now and would always welcome him with open arms. I am very proud of what Sean has achieved and to know him.

There have been some nasty posts on this blog. Certain people using it to put Shaun Ellis down and "big themselves up" in a childish way of "my way better than your way". There are no right or wrong ways. Shaun Ellis is doing his own thing and jealous petty people are evnvious of his media interest. If you have a genuine interest in wolves, you would take his work and words with interest, not continually put him down. I have met Shaun and he is a very nice genuine man, whose love of wolves is a pleasure to see.

I suRe hoPe Shaun keePs up the work he is DoiNg....PerSonally, I would LOVE TO BE Stop killing "our" Wolves in Alaska and the USATarget:President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick ChaneySponsored by: tan's alt movement

President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Chaney:

On behalf of the following petitioners, PLEASE STOP the AERIAL GUNNING
SLAUGHTER on "OUR" wolves in Alaska. Today would be a wonderful day to do exactly that. If you care, as you claim to, about all American Citizens; I ask you this question. "HOW CAN YOU ORDER AND ALLOW such an HORINDOUS and INEXCUSIBLE COLD-BLOODED ASSAULT on one of America's most beloved and revered creatures, THE WOLF?"..........So help me, I cannot see a dog lover allowing this travesty of justice. PLEASE ReCONSIDER your decision and orders to exterminate one of "GOD'S" most noble creatures. The wolf is an integral and absolutely a necessary part of the "real west", the natural eco-system. I had hoped you would value the life of at least a WOLF. If you would educate yourself just a "bit" about the part a WOLF plays in the natural order of things. HE is very very important. Help "SAVE" one of GOD'S most majestic and social creatures, the wolf, and you will not be remembered as the one who made absolutely sure the WOLF becomes extinct. The sad part is, the cowardly fashion by the shooter, in which the WOLF must face death! We, The American People HAVE MOST DEFINITELY seen it. Many videos and activists will never allow this one to go away. Thank you, sirs, for taking the time to consider this urgent issue; and please do the Right Thing this time.

phySically able to do what he is doing, I just abSolutely Love this mAn.....he is a pioNeer and heRo in my book!!
Hope AnY wolf loVer will siGn this petition beFore all thEir time has run out!! TanYaisa @tan's alt movement

Very well done Shaun, what you are doing deserves top accolade. Human families could learn a lot from the wolves. If you were my father I would be so proud to tell the world my father is Shaun Ellis The Wolfman a man who understands the most misunderstood. Keep up with the excellent work you are doing.

God bless Shaun Ellis and
all wolves, who are one of the most beautiful and majestic creatures.
How can evil people not see the Almighty God in them?

This guy is seriously ill. Here is why:
1. He feeds young wolves from his mouth.
2. He let´s them lick his wounds, because "wolf saliva" stimulates wound healing.
3. He growls, howls and makes wolf-like grinny faces, walking on all four.
4. He runs through the woods with an ugly mullet.
5. He eats his own food out of a deer carcass.
I mean, COME ON! This is one disturbed dude!
Sure, he may have contributed IMMENSLY to out scientific knowledge about wolves, but this almost erotic attraction to animals that some weirdos have just creeps me out.