Interpreting the Koran

Greg Chapman
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I for one am not educated enough on all religions to make a definitive statement on what religion is right. I truly believe that it could be multiple answers to a very complicated question. People from all walks of life have reasons to believe (or not to believe) in a faith system, but its a matter of respecting that and try to learn about why others believe in what they do.

Inside the Koran is a lesson in the religious school of thought. The documentary takes you all around the world to different regions to show how people of the muslim faith interpret the Koran.

You can catch the premiere of Inside the Koran on Tuesday August 5 at 9p et/pt.

Let me know what you think about the state of religious affairs around the world today.

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One does not interpret the Holy Koran. One reads the Koran and opens one's mind and one's heart to gain knowledge of God and see the Path embodied in the words of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). Once you see the beauty of Islam you cannot turn away from the way of life that will lead you to Peace and Spiritual fulfillment.

This is not done by interpreting the Holy Koran and asking oneself, "What does this mean to me?" Interpretation is an act of willfulness. To know God is to surrender one's will to Allah. Let the knowledge He has given His Prophets (PBUT) fill your mind and guide your heart in your struggle to know Peace.

I'll be interested in this program. I read the Koran several years ago before 9/11, actually, to see if I could figure out what drove some Muslims. I had some questions and a local Imam said he would answer them, but I chickened out and never made an appt. It was interesting to see that some biblical figures also appeared, in different roles, in the Koran.

By making accessible the texts of the Christian and Islamic holy books, www.BibleandKoran.net hopes to encourage study of both sources and promote mutual understanding.

This documentary has made many Muslims in the UK very upset about the way Shia Islam is biasedly portrayed, and the incomplete nature of the examinition of the Quran exhibited in the film. One cannot simply read the Quran and analyze it- the Hadith (verified recorded accounts of the Prophet's life, words and actions) and the Sunnah (the example of the Prophet's life ) must be taken into account for context in analyzing the Quran. Muslim viewers in the UK have been up in arms about the fact that Channel 4 (the network that commissioned the film) refuses to apologize for the inflammatory and incorrect assertions the film makes about Shia beliefs and practices and Quranic interpretations or analysis. Making media programs that are inaccurate and have the potential to sow more seeds of misunderstanding and sectarian strife in Western Muslim communities is incredibly irresponsible. Shame on you, Channel 4, and shame on you, National Geographic, for picking up the documentary without sufficient explanation of the problems with the film.

I plan to watch this program however my only concern is that it will not be so much as an informative program, rather one which attacks Islam like so many programs have done in the past. I am a huge fan of NatGeo I only hope I am not disappointed when I watch it.

See these articles to explain the pushback against the film's inaccuracies- http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/29/religion.islam
and another two articles from the Guardian-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/28/islam.channel4
and http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jul/29/channel4.ofcom1

I plan on watching it as well. I would rather form my own opinion AFTER I watch it rather than attack a presentation BEFORE it is presented. I am also curious as to what the resposes will be AFTER the airing, with the typical "that was incorrect" or not complete etc. I would really love to see comments pointing out precisely what is incorrect & the reasons why as opposed to a Blanket statement that the presentation is somehow wrong.

that didnt seem like an attack on the show..they just said they have high hopes for it and dont want to be disappointed. there wasnt any opinion there about the show itself at all..i also have high expectations from ngc. nothin wrong w that.

by the way Patrick B i completely agree with you! once you see the way of Islam...the real way the way it truly is....you cant turn away from it. its a beautiful religion!

What a shame! This documentary did not touch the beauty or depth of Qu'ran. It begins with a horrific view of women; the worst in degenerative muslim cultures. The one woman scholar is made to look out of touch, and side lined, even by this program.
It is hard to make the transition from there to any logical discussion; male and female reciprocity and love being the basis for the formation of family and society. The tone of the documentary was dark, the voice overs sound condemning, even when they are actually talking about the wonderful art, medicine and architecture which were born out of the creativity and inspiration of the people of the time.
If National Geographic wants to produce an interesting documentary on Islam, they need to look beyond the borders of islamic countries, and look to the west, where islam is rising in a fresh, new and inspiring way, where it is not about a culture, a food, a tradition of the past, but a living dynamic practice of compassion, creativity
and joy. Show me that!

this documentary was a pathetic biased piece of journalism that tried as hard as it could to denigrate the teachings of islam. it was intellectually lazy, and did not include any sort of textual analysis or rigor. it instead relied on a handful of hard line mullahs to interpret islamic law.

it defined islam as a monolith and paid lip service to the cultural influences that pass off at religious. there was scarely a mention of pakistan, india, or indonesia, where the vast majority of muslims live.

the true biased was revealed by showing the israelis as peaceful and sympathetic, while showing palestinians as angry and violent. this just exposes the bias of the documentary, since the majority of the world outside of the US is pro-palestinian.

this orientalist propaganda only serves to fuel the constructions of muslims as a monololith, and the stereotypes that follow. goebbles would have been proud

I missed the beginning of this programme, but the portions I did watch appeared to be fairly represented to a non-believing lay person with a six year interest in this subject matter.
For those not satisfied with the portrayal of any sect, this was not an effort at dawa or PR for Islam. Rather, the programme topically examined several different interpretations and did a fine job illuminating some distinctions. I will look to purchase this programme when it becomes available. It provided many useful tidbits and encourages further examination.

Interesting piece. As an American Christian and one who thinks for himself; if even 50% of the program is true it would seem that there are a great number confused souls out there that need some help. How could there be so much division within the same religion? Where is the understanding, compasion, forgiveness, and love?

Inside the Quran is a wealth and treasure that is accessible to anyone that has a sincere desire to know themselves, and the divine source from which they and all things arise. The first word of the Quran is "Iqra" read, seeing and percieving from a heart that has been emptied of all, but the presence of the divine light.From that perspective the world and all become living signs, full of wisdom, speaking to the heart of all that is possible for the awakened human being. Your documentary was not "Inside the Quran" but inside the vain and misguided minds of those pursuing a hopeless agenda to cover the imense nature of the Quran, the Prophetic teachings and all those who aspire to imbibe the transformative, transmsission that the Quran offers. Shame on National Geographics to demote themselves from a medium of sharing the wonders of the world to a cheap vendor of fear mongering and propoganda.

I wanted to watch the whole show, but could not after witnessing the female circumcision. Why would you show this? I felt like I was watching someone get raped. As a rape victim myself, I felt disgusted and horrified for this poor girl and many other girls who must endure this. Also, if this takes place mostly just in Africa and is so out of touch with the majority of Muslims, why would you show this. I wanted to see more happy women proud of their religion and willing to share positive aspects of it, not witness a girls body and mind permanently scarred.

*In response to Shadow*
Granted that part was shocking, but an interesting part of your comment is "I wanted to see more happy women"... That's exactly the wrong kind of mindset that far too many people have. A desire for blissful ignorance, thinking everything is all fun, games, and that the picture of everything is rosy even if clearly that is not necessarily the truth. When you think about the Yugoslav civil war and the tortures and ethnic cleansings in Bosnia, what do you want history books and documentaries to say "well, there was a lot of bad stuff happening but we're gonna show you a meadow of flowers in the middle of all this and it wasn't so bad after all!"?
No, that's ignorant, and that's refusing to acknowledge what's raelly happening, and in a sense it makes a person wanting that not too much more of a moral high horse than someone perpetrating the terror, because you don't want to see it happening and thus you do NOT respect the fact that these people went through this and though they may have been scarred they survived and are trying to live and tell their stories to try - sadly, often in vain - and prevent it from happening to someone else.
I do agree that it would be good to show both the "bad" and "good" aspects as espoused by followers of that faith, as that would offer more perspective.
And genital mutilation to me is also gruesome... but then you have to think about that we've been in a Western culture... in that culture in that part of the world, it is a perfectly acceptable and respectful rite of passage. Until that culture recognizes that there is much pain or emotional trauma caused, it doesn't quite make it a misdeed or immoral action/practice - who are we to judge from OUR point of view THEIR cultural practices? Change has to come from locally, not from outside, or else it will neither be welcomed nor will it actually last.

Hello Yah,
Thank You very much for your comments, and you have a great point of view that I think I understand. I had more of a knee-jerk reaction to what I saw which is why I wrote what I did. (I still believe it was horrible to show a young girl go through this nightmare, it was bad enough they did this to her, then to have the world see her go through it too?!) Believe me I do want to acknowledge and respect what all victims go through, it is horrible what we do to each other. Not to sound to whiny, because I dont want to diminish your point...I just get so depressed and worn down by reality and the world news now that I crave positivity, to see people happy with life for a change. (Granted maybe my perspective would be different if I lived there.) I know it wouldnt change that this still happens, and I want for people to be aware that people go through this and get angry about it, but why at the expense of showing this poor girl?

I found this to be an excellent program, presenting a sensitive subject in as much detail as conceivably was possible in only two hours and exhibiting, for the most part, what I saw as an attempt to be as fair as possible. It presented a variety of Muslim opinions, letting the viewer draw his/her own conclusions.

It was not intended to be an Islamic religious program, but instead a documentary. I think perhaps that some of the commenters before me who felt unhappy with this program may not realize that this was clearly a program aimed at an audience of average Westerners, who may know little about the Muslim faith. For this intended audience, I think the program probably succeeded quite well. I was happy to see, for instance, that there were references made to the Muslim tolerance of other faiths in living in their lands during the middle ages, as well as the debt that we owe to the Muslim world for the knowledge that it provided to the West. Similarly, although the program did interview and show excerpts of the speeches of some Muslims who would be viewed by the West as extreme, it also showed many moderate, dignified, and peace-loving Muslim people - this can only be a good thing given some of the fear-mongering that has occurred in the U.S. since 9/11.

I was struck as I watched the program by how much some of the seeming contradictions in the Koran mirror those of the Bible. I also was very impressed by the section that told about how the Koran teaches that each person is equal in the eyes of Allah; in Islam, each person is given personal worth and value.

My thanks to National Geographic for presenting Inside the Koran.

What a disappointing show!

The show highlighted the political and cultural problems faced by Muslims in some countries which has nothing to do with the Quran.

If the show meant to be about the Quran they were better served to spend most of the show about the Quran and to mix culture and politics with it.

It is very disapponting indeed coming from National Georgraphic!

To Raven : How could you say that Islam is a beautiful religion? Almost all of young un-married people in Iran (a so-called super ISLAMIC country, where the whole culture and thoughts are formed based on Islam) are masturbating shamefully, because they are NOT ABLE to marry due to back-breaking financial problems. Islam has proven to be failed, like Communism failed in Soviet Union. Yes, it is a beautiful religion, like Christianity, ONLY when you is applied within personal space, not a means to govern a society. Please OPEN your eyes, see the REALITY, see the world, the most misirable nations on the world are unfortunately, Muslim countries. At least one side of almost any current wars in the world is a Muslim country. Just reflect, and think about it.
You be judge.

To Raven : How could you say that Islam is a beautiful religion? Almost all of young un-married people in Iran (a so-called super ISLAMIC country, where the whole culture and thoughts are formed based on Islam) are masturbating shamefully, because they are NOT ABLE to marry due to back-breaking financial problems. Islam has proven to be failed, like Communism failed in Soviet Union. Yes, it is a beautiful religion, like Christianity, ONLY when you is applied within personal space, not a means to govern a society. Please OPEN your eyes, see the REALITY, see the world, the most misirable nations on the world are unfortunately, Muslim countries. At least one side of almost any current wars in the world is a Muslim country. Just reflect, and think about it.
You be judge.

I'm always interested in the overreaction people have about TV shows on their religion. Christians freak out over any show that questions their beliefs, its no different here. I'm not Muslim, but have great respect for the religion. You can seek out negatives if you'd like - but I walked away thinking positive overall about the Muslim religion - isn't that what you are looking for? There was a lot of debate about the interpretation, but I guess that's the point - it means different things to different people. Its great to see more shows on religions outside of Christianity - I hope this is the beginning of a trend.

However, I still find it funny how worked up people get. I don't think this or any show will change the minds one way or another. You have to step back and be more objective - its a 2-hour film (with commercials) - only so much can be covered. If you want a big theortical debate - stick to educational films. Not all non-Muslims are idiots, we can think on our own based on the information provided to us.

I watched the program.
I liked it and I am going to recommend it to all my friends.
It confirmed many things I learned and observed from my independent study of Holy Quran.
I do not know Arabic so I studied it in English.

I only watched the hour-long version of this documentary, but what I saw, was to a degree-fair and balanced. As an African-American who embraced at the age of 16 in 1989, I like many American born Blacks, have an entirely different perspective about Islam and how the religion regulates our lives.

First and foremost, the Qur'an IS ABOVE HADITH, NOT EQUAL TOO. When analyzing hadith and the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH), a thinking person must take into account what is eternal, and what is temporal or temporary, and that study is helped through the guidance of a wise shaykh or imam with NO AGENDA. Secondly, a thinking Muslim man and woman must value education and the pursuit of knowledge, not just in Al-Islaam, but in life period. The pursuit only seeks to enrich being a Muslim, not take away from it, which is not the case for many poor Muslims around the world, including the United State of America. The massive contributions Islam has made to the world-from the 7th to the 11th century understood those principles. How can anyone be a Muslim, and not love science, when Allah (SWT) tell man, SCIENTIFICALLY, how he was created?

I studied under various schools of thought; Nation of Islam, Ansaaru-Allah, Sufi-Tijaniya, Sunni, etc., and the six words that puts Islam in perspective for me came from Elijah Muhammad - ACCEPT YOUR OWN AND BE YOURSELF. As individual Muslims, we give too many people power over our lives and how we should lead them. If you put your trust and faith in Allah (SWT) ALONE, follow the Qur'an, guided by the Sunnah (not some unverified, questionable hadiths), educate yourself about yourself, Islam and the world around you - being a Muslim in the 21st cenutry an be a glorious thing.

When I hear some Muslims in the States talking about they would not take plane to make Hajj, but swim or take a boat, is the some of the most insane things I have ever heard. This line of thinking has slowly crept into some masjids, particularly in African-American neighborhoods over the past 15 years. Only Allah (SWT) knows why he created the human mind with unlimited potential. Why don't we as Muslims use it for a change

to a so called muslim


first of all government was not mentioned in my comment whatsoever. i suggest you reconsider what you say before you say it. Islam is indeed a beautiful religion and i stand by that. How governments choose to runn their countries is not something which directly correlates to religion. Some of the most poverty stricken and violent countries in the world have nothing to do with any religion (bc not all 3rd world countries are muslim ones). Bad choices made by bad rulers lead to countries in bad shape. To add another point...the way Iranians worship..which is Shiite islam has a world of differences when compared to the Sunni. you can not possibly compare the two on the same level. As it was said in the program the Koran is written so that we all have the responsibility to interpret it properly. i think you happen to be one of those who has interpretted it negatively and thats your choice but do not impose those beliefs on anyone else. i think its beautiful and thats that. do not knock down others for disagreeing with your side of the matter.
thanks!
ps (most young people masturbate no matter what the religion or country whether you know it or not)

Unless we are using an extremely unusual definition of the word 'interpretation' the use of such word in the context used already and continued to be used is non-sensical. The first thing that you must realize is Islam considers the Quran to be the immutable, unchangeable, eternal text existing in heaven. It is to be taken literally for teaching, law, and examples. Islam is a total belief system using this text and supplemental texts that provide and make sense of the Quran: the hadith/sira etc. which are the traditions of the islamic prophet.

There is no way to 'interpret' Quran verse 9:29 or 9:5. It mandates violence against non-believers. If you want to ignore it, suit yourself, however that's not an interpretation. There is no ambiguity in, (Yusuf Ali): 'Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.'

It is open-ended and mandates violence. It is not time specific nor has ever been thought to be that by any muslim exegete for 1400 years. What's more, there ARE plenty of contradictions in the Quran, and the way the exegetes got around this (and muhammad himself) is through verse 2:106, 'None of Our revelations do We abrogate [nansakh] or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?' That is, the LATTER verse takes precedence (doctrine called "naskh"). You'll see that alcohol was looked at as being marginal and then it was prohibited later (the first revelation was abrogated). There are many other examples, but the point is that Chapter 9 'Repentance' has for all of history been treated as the last chapter revealed to Muhammad (a few succeeded but didn't have impact or didn't abrogate anything). So, the abrogation of all peaceful verses is in effect, because that is the only way to make sense of the Quran. Those in islam have painted themselves in a corner by saying that these words came straight from God. Anyone with discipline of mind can see the reality of the situation. But it is indeed hard to overcome emotional and familial ties for the truth.

Shari'a and islam for centuries has allowed for the beating of women when disobedient (up to man's discretion) 4:34, Al-Azhar university, the most respected sunni muslim university in the entire muslim world details as acceptable how parents cannot be punished for killing their offspring or grandchildren. Women are half the value in testimony as a man, and get unequal inheritances ... the list goes on and on. I am not saying this, Muslims themselves say this because this is what the Quran says and they believe it comes from God. No, it is NOT interpretation. Muslims, as human beings, can rationalize or ignore whatever they desire but they rarely 'interpret' anything. Muslims may be moderate, but Islam is not. It is self evident from the most respected historians and exegetes, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Juzaay, etc. on their commentaries of the Quran and what the Quran says. Wishing this weren't the case doesn't make it disappear. Unfortunately, the example of Muhammad does not help this either. It fuels the fire. All you have to do is read to the most respected Muslims and the examples of the Islamic prophet through ahadith and sira.

Those sound thinking "muslims" only contribute to the problem when they don't want to recognize the aforementioned problems. Let's be honest, and ask yourselves the question ... MILLIONS of people are misunderstanding the teachings? With even the most cursory amount of research you'll unfortunately see that the "moderates" have no counter to the pure islamic followers (wahabbi and salafists) and it is rather they who are ignoring the teachings and examples. It is curious as well that the only people that act like there is moderate islam are in western countries, non islamic countries, and are afforded the ability to live with freedom and equality never seen in any islamic empire for history. They bear witness in their emigration to their own false claims.

As one of the UK scholars who protested against this film may I add some points that were of concern to me.

Films for public broadcast should be fair and not support or endorse one point of view. This film uses a perticular minority view of Islam as the 'correct' paradigm to judge the practices of all Muslims and declare all those who believe in intercession as "sinful". This is not just Shi'as but also for example the majority of sub-Saharan African Muslims. In a programme to discuss the film Ajmal Masroor, a consultant on the film, declared that, "No Sunnis believe in intercession!" Perhaps our Sufi brothers in the US, who have suffered many insults of this nature, might care to comment.

My concern was that this particular view of Islam was not sign-posted in the film or its trails and thus a non-expert viewer would have minority opinions portrayed as 'mainstream Islam' by stealth. The niceness of the filming and the apparent honesty of the approach conceal this dark agenda even from open-minded viewers. It is a very subtle piece of propaganda for the sort of exclusivist Islamic ideology in which groups such as the Taliban began their extremist paths. However the reactions of Gary and Whuppie are exactly what I had predicted reasonable people would have because the film is artfully made and reasonable people expect public broadcasts to be truthful.

Palamas you seem confused. Although the text of the Qur'an is immutable its interpretation or tafsir is not. However, many of the presenters and consultants on this film do hold to literalist readings of the Qur'an, a belief that is not shared by the majority of Muslims. Wahabis are a tiny minority within Islam and are in no way representative of "pure" Islam. The Qur'an says that it was revealed in plain language to be understood. Understanding is about interpreting words into thoughts and then into actions. The Qur'an also declares it uses similes and one wonders how they can be taken literaly.

A wonderful series on the Islamic world is 'The Man Who Walked Across the World' on BBC iPlayer. Check it out and compare it to 'Inside The Quran'.

It's somewhat funny to me that you say that I am the one that is confused. Wouldn't it be better to tell that to the MILLIONS of muslims that are confused by the islamic prophet's examples of war and violence and how his revelations justify these examples? Explain Surah 9 and the hundreds of tafsir and hadith that corroborate it, then, Mr. Amin. You are contributing to the problem by denying this. Muhammad said, "I was made victorious by terror" (Sahih Bukhari V4 Book 52:220) and (Sahih Muslim Book 1 #30) "I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah". Those are the most reliable hadith according to islamic sources themselves and they go hand in hand with the doctrine, theology and jurisprudence that mandates violence against non-believers.

Anyone reading this please go and read Sahih Muslim and Bukhari. You'll find that these passages have absolutely nothing to do with interpretation. They are open ended statements that define only muslims as being worthy of any respect and dignity, not anyone else until they submit.

In order for you to be taken seriously, Mr. Amin, you have to have a counter-argument for the above examples. Unfortunately, you can't find it in Muhammad's life or the writings otherwise about him.

UNDERSTAND this point: If my above examples weren't so obvious (and it is Muslims themselves that say this, I am just reporting what they say) and violence were not occurring, would we even be having this conversation? Of course not. The burden is on you sir, to be honest and to not take seriously ANYTHING related to Muhammad, ultimately. It is the only way to live with peace, harmony, and EQUALITY with others --- something that has never happened in Islamic history.

Dear Palamas,I must compliment you on your ability to exhale hot air. However, two points on hadith; in what context was the statement made? is this hadith reliable? By context I refer to at what time it happened and also what tone we might infer for how it was said. So you need to study Islamic history, the biographies of the people claimed to transmit an hadith etc. Take an expression like "Give them Hell!" without a context I might, folowing your method choose to believe that it indicates a property transfer. But the speaker may have intended something else. By the way Bukhari was criticised in his lifetime for allowing the term 'sahih' to be used in connection with his book on the grounds that the hadith in it were not all reliable.

I have to ask you which verse in Surah 9? If any of my students or members of the local Muslim community do what you are attempting, ie that start taking gobbits of Bible, Torah or Talmud out of context to prove an extreme view of the beliefs of Christians or members of the Jewish community I take them to task because it does not present a true picture or meaningfully increase anyone's knowledge. Just as 'Inside the Quran' with its agenda does not. If it were not for Muslims committed to telling the truth would anyone have been made aware of the inaccuracies deployed in this film?

What you fail to understand is that because a few Muslims say certain things does not mean they can reasonably be justified from Islamic texts or that I am obliged to say anything other than I believe they do not speak for Islam and they certainly do not speak for me.

In a 'Virginian' sense, I hope you were smiling when you called me Mr,because I am.

To Palamas:

Matthew 10: 34-35
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a SWORD. For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."

Hey Palamas, my friend! This is much more violent than 9:5 or 9:29, cos it is much easier to "fight those who believe not in Allah" than "to be set AGAINST your own FATHER". You be judge :-)

PS: (Holy Quran, 39:41)
"Whosoever is guided, is guided for his own gain, and he who goes astray, it is only for his own loss."

To Palamas:

(Holy Bible, Matthew 10: 34-35)
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a SWORD. For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."

Hey Palamas, my friend! This is much more violent than 9:5 or 9:29, cos it is much easier to "fight those who believe not in Allah" than "to be set AGAINST your own FATHER". You be judge :-)

PS: (Holy Quran, 39:41)
"Whosoever is guided, is guided for his own gain, and he who goes astray, it is only for his own loss."

To Palamas:

(Holy Bible, Matthew 10: 34-35)
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a SWORD. For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."

Hey Palamas, my friend! This is much more violent than 9:5 or 9:29, cos it is much easier to "fight those who believe not in Allah" than "to be set AGAINST your own FATHER". You be judge :-)

PS: (Holy Quran, 39:41)
"Whosoever is guided, is guided for his own gain, and he who goes astray, it is only for his own loss."

The most misirable nations on the world are unfortunately, Muslim countries. At least one side of almost any current wars in the world is a Muslim country. Just reflect, and think about it.

I watched the video and it has its good and bad sides. Noone should expect to understand a whole religion in a couple of hours. Maybe you can see big picture roughly not the details.

But when I watched any documentary about Islam, I really want to see Turkey and Turks and their role in Muslim world. For example they talked about "Sufi" tradition and there was no authority from Turkey to talk about it despite Turks having the most important Muslim sufis in their history. They also have valuable professors who can talk about Islam throughout the history of religions. Professors like Abdulaziz Bayindir should be contacted about it from Turkey.

Sir Allah's Slave,

Thank you for bringing up a common tactic used by muslims to deflect criticism that they should be using in order to better themselves, not to deny their own problems and therefore be unable to fix them. Their desire for hegemony and feeling of superiority fuels their inability to recognize their faults and better themselves, and treat others with respect.

People who want to learn the truth will see it in what I am writing. Think about it please, sir: Let's say Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. WERE violent. Would that make Islam non-violent? Of course not. You should know the famous arabic saying, "Silence is an answer." Sir, you are unable to deny islam's mandates on control violence centered and focused on Muhammad, as evidenced by tafsir, hadith, etc. from all the most reputable muslim exegetes themselves (Ibn Ishaq, Mo's first biographer, Ibn Kathir, Jalalyn, Juzaay, and the aforementioned ahadith) ---therefore you resort to these tactics. Thank you for allowing me to show your transparency.

I must emphasize the fact that no one in the world gives any reference to biblical texts or the example of Jesus Christ (who never slept with anyone, let alone 9 year old girls; advocated love for enemies, a spiritual manner of living, saying his message and kingdom are not of this world; also he was never involved in any war and in fact told his disciples not to fight against the authorities) in order to justify violence. No one. MILLIONS of muslims do this daily. But you sir wouldn't understand this because you are uncapable of hearing this message and consider others to be liars and corrupters, not worthy to be around or talk to.

The problem isn't with Christians/Buddhists/Jews/HHindus/Ba'hai! These people spread their message through discourse, value questioning and reasoning so that the truth may come to light. Furthermore, they do it through good works that benefit people they have never met before, amazingly without regard for their religion.

Islam has never done such things, doesn't allow for questioning, and has created the house of war and house of islam, so that it must fight against all others until they embrace Islam. It and its founder have shown us for 1400 years that the value of freedom, dignity, and equality only exists for muslims --- NO ONE else.

I wish it weren't true --- but failing to mention the truth is too dangerous and counter-productive. Too many people have fallen victim that it would be wrong for their sakes and truth's sake to deny the reality of things. Only when we recognize how things are can we change them for the good of all people.

I only catched the last 5 minutes of this program, does anybody know when it is going to air again?

thanks

It's a fantastic program.I learned many things from this.I recomend this prog to other all.

a

To Palamas:
"who never slept with anyone, let alone 9 year old girls..."

Muhammad did that, what's wrong with it?! Did he broke any of Allah's law on marriage? Did he treated Aisha unjustly?

"Islam has never done such things, doesn't allow for questioning,…"
Quran always advise us to reflect, to ponder, to think, to question, and there are so many verses in Quran condemning those who blindly follow any faith.

I would like to beg you dear sir to "move", it's not time to stand against truth.

I would say that Islam's view on this life and creation and purpose of creation is the most reasonable and beautiful view of all in the forms of beautiful parables in Quran about the life of this world, and life of Hereafter.

We should be careful when we approach laws and interpretations in Quran, but the theology is perfect.

If you do not agree, come on and bring a more rational view on the life of this world and the purpose of life. I will be the first who embrace your new religion! :-)
Peace,Allah's slave

Mr(s). Moderator:

Please do not allow the intentional disruptive conduct of Mr. Allah's Slave to trump and win out over regularly and fairly exercised posts of others and myself. Please consider moderation to be fair and not to shut it down after he has used these methods. Please do not post this, rather, consider what I've said and the ramifications of your filtering. Thank you.

I only have one thing to say after watching the documentary the other night...No matter how you read it or what you call yourself..GOD IS LOVE to every single one of his CHILDREN.

Where can I purchase the video?

Where can I purchase the video? This is one of the most interesting documentary's I have seen. I would like to more about the Koran.

The Quran does not need further interpretation, it completly dynamic and up to date, you either believe it or leave it.

If God is The Ruler, The One Who decides, who are you and I to decide on the meaning and intent of His Word, be it interpreted by Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Budha or whatever scholar? Accepting God as The Almighty, He is looking down on us quarrelers, and obviously decides to let us be. I take the liberty of assuming one of His rulings, and that is: mutual respect. If this virtue is not of your mind and hart, like some of the so called wise men in the documentary, then do they indeed His Word truthfully? I daresay: no!

my way:

nod if you have heard of inquisition, crusades or dark ages? Christianity as a religion is very closed minded and has a history full of war, violence and fascism. Christians have harmed jews, muslims and other christians in the name of the lord all throughout the history. What's worse is that Christianity has all the means of endorsing bigotry through Vatican and other churches to the extent that some old senile man has the power to kick people out of a religion as if it's a country club, now that is something you can never say about Islam. In Islam, the religion is only between the believer and the creator, no church can kick you out.

That is not to say Islam is open minded and tolerant. No, it's not. Anyone who claims that it is should first explain how such a contradiction exists today, that Muslims believe Islam is only between men and creator, yet won't give other people the liberty to sin. If I choose to drink wine or beer, how come another mortal is allowed to interfere with business that is only between me and the creator? Who can consider himself fit to judge and punish my sins in this world? This is against the very foundation this religion claims to be based upon.

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